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renassault · 10-14-2008, 12:46 AM

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Don't you get tired of stretching the truth??

Not as tired when I try to use facts to argue with some folks..

Toto · 10-14-2008, 12:51 AM

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I think that this finding from evolutionary biology explains the attraction JP Holding to some religious believers. He exudes certainty, and people crave that sort of certainty in the face of ambiguity:

The Certainty Bias: A Potentially Dangerous Mental Flaw

That quote kinda applies to your post as well... maybe to this one too

I think you have missed the point completely.

spin · 10-14-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spin

Don't you get tired of stretching the truth??

Not as tired when I try to use facts to argue with some folks..

Oh, please, do. Use some facts! It'd lift your game a little.

spin

Toto · 10-14-2008, 12:57 AM

moderator request - Let's drop this exchange, OK ?

NFLP · 10-14-2008, 09:09 AM

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I was a regular over at TWEB for years. I have to say, it wasn't skepticdude's points/posts or the email quotes that finally killed most of my interest in TWEB, it was the reaction of the community and of JPH. There have been many threads about riposte, insults, and the Biblical basis for such. But nothing made it so clear about WHY they defend this style of conversation as their reaction to skepticdude.

Well, TWEBS inconsequential loss, me ! is IIDB's questionable gain = P

It's a peculiar puerile pusillanimous practice. Jesse(lao tzu) called it, correctly, internet cowardice.

Mr Holding has sold his soul and sycophants into Sisyphean support for such schoolyard silliness.

I wonder if Mr Holding teaches his "riposte" insults and derision techniques during his speaking engagements for the Certified Apologetic Instructor Program (under aegis of the SBC). If not, why not?

Is he not truly proud of it?

Sabine Grant · 10-14-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeluvia

I was a regular over at TWEB for years. I have to say, it wasn't skepticdude's points/posts or the email quotes that finally killed most of my interest in TWEB, it was the reaction of the community and of JPH. There have been many threads about riposte, insults, and the Biblical basis for such. But nothing made it so clear about WHY they defend this style of conversation as their reaction to skepticdude.

Well, TWEBS inconsequential loss, me ! is IIDB's questionable gain = P

Very good observation, Zeluvia! And bonjour to you!

I was one of the T Webbers attempting to restore some type of decency in the midst of JPH's and his fans' vociferation. You had already won my mind when I was Rahab there... no doubt you will be a win for IIDB. It is so good to see you.>

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NFLP · 10-17-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeluvia

I was a regular over at TWEB for years. I have to say, it wasn't skepticdude's points/posts or the email quotes that finally killed most of my interest in TWEB, it was the reaction of the community and of JPH. There have been many threads about riposte, insults, and the Biblical basis for such. But nothing made it so clear about WHY they defend this style of conversation as their reaction to skepticdude.

Well, TWEBS inconsequential loss, me ! is IIDB's questionable gain = P

It's a peculiar puerile pusillanimous practice. Jesse(lao tzu) called it, correctly, internet cowardice.

Mr Holding has sold his soul and sycophants into Sisyphean support for such schoolyard silliness.

I wonder if Mr Holding teaches his "riposte" insults and derision techniques during his speaking engagements for the Certified Apologetic Instructor Program (under aegis of the SBC). If not, why not?

Is he not truly proud of it?

At his Theologyweb lair, in response to my comments, Mr Holding says he is proud of it. He states he has "mentioned it in lessons." He then, in his characteristic Christ-like wisdom, tells me to "stuff it."

I find it highly doubtful that in his "mentioned lessons" Mr Holding has come anywhere close to portraying the flavor of how he conducts himself at Theologyweb. It is doubtful that any speaking engagement sponsors (past and future) are aware of his antics there.

The only comments we've heard from any experts are from Rorhbaugh and Malina, the authors on whose writings Mr Holding bases his "riposte" insults and derision; their comments were not favorable. Mr Holding has yet to obtain firsthand support from them.

He claims apologetic pats-on-the-back from Lee Strobel and Hank Hanegraaff. They don't act as Mr Holding does and I doubt they are aware of his Theologyweb behavior.

Albert Mohler, president of the SBC theological seminary, recently spoke against similar speech from Christian proselytizers. I wonder how he would react upon learning that one of his Certified Apologetic Instructors was a prolific purveyor---and proud of it.

Soundsurfr · 10-17-2008, 11:49 AM

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Albert Mohler, president of the SBC theological seminary, recently spoke against similar speech from Christian proselytizers. I wonder how he would react upon learning that one of his Certified Apologetic Instructors was a prolific purveyor---and proud of it.

Someone should tell him.:devil1:

Zeluvia · 10-17-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeluvia

I was a regular over at TWEB for years. I have to say, it wasn't skepticdude's points/posts or the email quotes that finally killed most of my interest in TWEB, it was the reaction of the community and of JPH. There have been many threads about riposte, insults, and the Biblical basis for such. But nothing made it so clear about WHY they defend this style of conversation as their reaction to skepticdude.

Well, TWEBS inconsequential loss, me ! is IIDB's questionable gain = P

Very good observation, Zeluvia! And bonjour to you!

I was one of the T Webbers attempting to restore some type of decency in the midst of JPH's and his fans' vociferation. You had already won my mind when I was Rahab there... no doubt you will be a win for IIDB. It is so good to see you.>

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Thank you. Good to see you too >

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