Darth Dane

I'm not sure if this should be here or in morals!

If we expect something of others, we should expect to do the same ourselves.

This is leading by example.

Not to do this is hypocrisy.

Having double standards and whatnot.

Would anyone follow anyone and their rules if they didn't follow them themselves?

Do as I say not what I do

Given this, there is logic:

God won't kill us. We may loose our physical body, but we won't die.

God Loves us as God Loves God.

Would God send God to Hell then?

Would you cut off your hand if it turned bad, like gangrene?


Edit:

God will turn his cheek to you

Stacey Melissa

According to one version of the Apostle's Creed, God sent Jesus to hell for three days. And if Jesus is God, then God did send God to hell. But if hell is the separation from God, then hell became not-hell when God got there, which means that God couldn't have sent God to hell.

Perhaps I should stop trying to make sense of Christianity.

Darth Dane

So can we conclude that Hell has been the powertool of priests and popes, and not a teaching from God?

Ronin

I think we can also conclude that the concept of "God" has been the powertool of priests and popes and not a teaching of reality in plain view.

Verily.

Darth Dane

Which isn't what we are discussing here

Ronin

I disagree.

Yahzi

So you reject the notion that God can do whatever he wants with people, since he created them?

Very good. Now go explain that to Rad and Magus55.

sharon45

The subject of hell is used by christians as a very powerful tool, yes, but hell it is not a part of the Tanach/OT and that version of a god. Much of the NT can not be explain without trying first so, out of most of the confines of the Tanach/OT writings.

Darth Dane

No, but if "God" does, then it isn't the God that Jesus spoke about.

capnkirk

The bolded phrase has the following explanation: During the second century, there was a lot of consolidation of the Christ myth going on as Xtian thinkers were discovering problems in doctrine. One of these problems was that of those who had died before Christ's mission and had gone to Hell (under Xtian doctrine). These thinkers realized the fundamental unfairness of this, so they surmised that the time between J's death on the cross and his resurrection was spent in Hell offering his message. Those who accepted him were released...those who didn't, weren't. This is just a very early version of the contemporary Xtian dilemma over the fate of a heathen who dies without ever hearing the Xtian message (as in: do they go to Hell?). Back then it wasn't a question; it was presumed!

Just another mythbuilder's patch to cover an oversight in the extant myth.

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