tek

I want to tell you that God exist and God created the world, evolution is not a fact its a religion, you have to have faith to believe in evolution.
The bible ALL of its prophecies have come true.

Take a look around you if we were any closer to the sun we would all burn to death, think please, its all not just some beautiful coincidences.
The reason that all is messed up and you see war and people getting old and death and mutation is because everything was perfect until SIN came into the world, God dont want robots worshiping him he gave us a choice. and men rejected him so sin came and since nothing is as perfect as it was in the Garden of Eden.
But soon it will again, all I have to say is that the best explanation is God exist, I mean thinking we all came from monkeys lol I woulnt be going around telling people im related to BOBO from the bronx zoo. no PROOF, BIG BANG, no proof lol yea the world just got up and walked and said im gonna make myself that makes sence (notice the sarcasm) Creatism is the best argument no doubt about it.
P.S. God Bless everyone

disgracian

please let this thread die a quiet death...

Principia

Hi tek,

If you want to do the Lord's work, let me suggest that you go to one of these other sites. The people there need more open-minded souls like yourself. The atheists and scientists here are going to bury the truth of God with their facts and theories. It's no use.

www.arn.org/boards
www.iscid.org/boards
www.rr-bb.com
www.theologyweb.com

God Bless!

In Christ,
Principia

PS: BTW, that is "Creationism" not "Creatism." Just being helpful.

GunnerJ

Gee, I guess we must really be fucked, because the Earth's orbit is elliptical, and thus the distance from earth to sun varies greatly throughout the year.

Listen, everyone, this post has marginal on-topic content, so I'm going to keep it here. The thread will be locked and/or moved to Elsewhere if the following subjects come under discussion:

• Biblical Prophesies
• Free Will
• Cosmology and the Big Bang
• God's existance

This is the Evolution/Creation Forum, not EoG, BH&A, S&S, or Philosophy. Keep the thread on topic. Assuming tek is for real and not a drive-by or a troll, that is.

Duvenoy

The Where of Else is probably a good place for it, and probably where it'll end up. But, I will try.

'K tek, please detail your doubts about the Theory of Evolution. Further, please provide evidence that God is directly responsible for the life upon earth today. Also, define 'kind'.

doov

tek

The Where of Else is probably a good place for it, and probably where it'll end up. But, I will try.

'K tek, please detail your doubts about the Theory of Evolution. Further, please provide evidence that God is directly responsible for the life upon earth today. Also, define 'kind'.

doov

First evolution points nowhere, How does evolution provide facts that god don't exist,
It is just saying we all came from apes.
who created the apes ?
And also how come there arent any apes changing into men now ?
I heard even Darwin in his death bed admitted that it was bull he regreted he ever said that.

and as for evidence God exist well look around you everything smell of creation, Everything was put in place like eyes was put to see,
Doesn't it take an INTELLIGENT being to say we must put eyes for the men to see ?
and feet to walk.
Doesnt it take an INTELLIGENT being to say men need to walk or just another beautiful coincidence, monkey did it ?
I can go on and on, mountains and all its beautiful designs, or beautiful coincidence ?
I'm just trying to say that creatism is the most intelligent argument in my opinion.
God bless

Kevin

Assuming this is a geniune post, though I'm somewhat skeptical, I'll give you a few helpful, I hope, tips:

If you want to discuss the existence of God, you can go to IIDB's Existence of God(s) forum.

If you want to discuss the alleged accuracy of Biblical prophecy, go to the Biblical Criticism & History forum.

If you want to discuss the Big Bang, planetary formation, stellar formation, or any other non-evolution related science topic, go to Science & Skepticism.

If you'd like to discuss anything that doesn't fall into the above categories, nor is relevant to evolution, check around the main page and you'll probably find a relevant forum for the discussion you'd like to start.

If you're going to continue discussing things here, please start by trying to make your best case for the seperate creation of species or 'kinds' (if the latter, please define 'kind' rigorously beforehand). You might want to check the Talk Origins Archive to see if your arguments have already been refuted, because, if they have, the chances are that we're going to be able to refute them too.

Also, when you proclaim there is no 'proof,' by which I will assume that you mean evidence, I hope you are familiar with the evidence which has already been adduced in support of evolution, otherwise you're simply arguing from ignorance--a quite tenuous position. Reading the Talk Origins Archive, especially the +29 Evidences for Macroevolution will bring you up to speed on many threads of evidence in favor of common descent.

Good luck!

Edited to add: If you want to quote the material in a previous post, go to that post, and hit the quote button on the bottom right, and it will automatically generate a response page with the previous poster's text included.

scombrid

Hmmm, I might not be related to BOBO but I swear I'm part bonobo.

Evolutionist

- there is no overall "plan" to evolution no.

- you're right- evolution doesn't say a god doesn't exist. like all scientific theories, it says nothing about a god.

-we are apes.

- we evolved alongside modern apes, we didn't evolve from them.

-try looking up elementary evolutionary theory before you start asking simplistic questions.

-lady hope story. a myth i'm afraid.

- also irrelevent. even if Darwin did recant on his deathbed, it wouldn't take away the fact that evolution occurs.

-to say that, yes i suppose it would. however, that doesn't really mean anything.

- what's this with something needing to say men need to walk? why does it have to be said for it to occur? this makes absolutely no sense.

- and bipedal walking makes obvious evolutionary sense.

-so the fact that you find mountains aesthetically pleasing means they must have been created? please.

- if that's true then do try to put forward an intelligent argument for it.

scombrid

It says nothing of the existence of god. It contradicts literal Genesis but then so do many theories in geology and cosmology. But none say squat about the existence of god or gods. Standard probability theory does more to negate the existence of your personal interventionist god than does evolutionary theory.

Who created god? ad infinitum

Why should they? Evolution doesn't have any proscribed direction. Besides, we've about filled all the niches that are available to smart, upright walking hominins and even create lots of new ones for ourselves. There just isn't room for another dominant ape and if we were wiped out and another ape did become dominant, it wouldn't necessarily be exactly like sapiens.

You heard wrong.