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GakuseiDon · 08-17-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quantumspirit

I have already told people at TOL that I have, just a social experiment. However, I am reading Why Atheism by George Smith. I do consider the OT to be mythical. I want to do some more debating before I decide to deconvert or stay Christian.

Let me start with some Christian apologetic talking points! The authenticity of the Gospels. Jesus' resurrection and the many eyewitnesses to it, and there is no such thing as a collective hallucination.

Even if God exists... even if Jesus resurrected... so what? What should that mean to us? Why should that mean anything to you?

It's the same problem that I see a lot of people struggle with, both theists and atheists -- they've been brought up with the idea that God can only be one way, which they either have to reject or accept. For some, it is how they perceive the Bible -- either literally true, or useless. For others, it is how they perceive God -- either the Sky Wizard, or non-existent. It reminds me of the following story: A person was grilling a Buddhist monk, for reasons on why he should accept Buddha. Finally, he demanded, "WHO is the Buddha?" The monk replied, "WHO is asking?"

tjakey · 08-17-2007, 06:46 PM

Well, there is no god so you might as well admit it and get on with your life.

Chris Weimer · 08-17-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tjakey

Well, there is no god so you might as well admit it and get on with your life.

While I happen to think the first part of your statement is correct, the latter is insulting, and coming from you with no reasons or qualifications, it's worthless advice.

Fr. Gottisttot · 08-17-2007, 06:51 PM

Sure, why not? Read as much as you can and learn as much as you can... that will lead you either to theism, agnosticism, or atheism. But I think that the latter is most likely... question everything.

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tjakey Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,060	Well, there is no god so you might as well admit it and get on with your life.

08-17-2007, 06:51 PM	#14
Fr. Gottisttot Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: da Upper Peninsula Posts: 1,272	Sure, why not? Read as much as you can and learn as much as you can... that will lead you either to theism, agnosticism, or atheism. But I think that the latter is most likely... question everything.

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