Autonemesis

Justify yours first.

This is you, Joyfilled, here on IIDB. It describes your attitude perfectly. You speak and do not listen to us here. You walk in here all puffed up like the proud attorney, and yet never rebut anyone who critiques your case. You come in here with guns blazing like the general, not realizing that your aim is way off, and you do not even know that you're missing the target.

Physician, heal thyself.

Or Pot, meet Kettle, you two have something in common.

Light

Shura, There is no such thing as "satan".

We have never heard of this, and are still trying to find out what you mean by "satan".

Can you please say what it is to me?

Or you can tell my friends at Area 51 in Nevada. People are very friendly here and very welcoming too.

We are looking for this satan you are talking about but cannot find anything here.

When you say that you are an evil child-rapist monster is this because you want people to think you are insane, or do you want to frighten them?

Why do you want to frighten them? Is it a game?

Nobody would do things like this to your own children.

We never would even think of such things, it is not very nice.

You have a lot of people here with damaged mentalities.

Would you like us to remove them all for you?

Shura

@ Light: Er...I really don't know what you're saying/ trying to say.

For those who may have misunderstood anything in my earlier post, allow me to lace it with these:

Light

You are badly damaging the planet where you live. Don't you know this?

You have many destructive ideas, too many, and too many weapons as well.

What do your people need all of those weapons for?

These have nothing to do with planet managing, and they are very dangerous too.

We are still trying to find out what you are doing, why do you have this "religion" and what is "politics"?

All you need to do is to run your planet properly, but as you cannot manage it, We have come to help you.

We have a base at Area 51, and now We have other bases too, but don't worry because We are very friendly.

Infidelettante

But for Joyfilled he does exist. We will never reach Joyfilled, or most believers for that matter, by logic and reason. They can be reached only in an emotional context which challenges their complacent, comfortable relationship with their god.

Confronting them in a way that makes them question, even for a moment, the nature of the thing they worship is, I think, the only way to help them take the first steps toward de-conversion.

JT

sharon45

Yes, "your jesus" as well. Every christian has their own personal invention of jesus because afterall, he was an invention in the first place. Yes, you are right, I have no respect for your created version of god either. But, of course I have respect for other people, one reason I am not a christian.

As far as me being selfish, that is again a very wrong assumption, and this "mars vs. earth takeover" you suggest, would more be akin to christianity.

Light

We never worship God, but We do respect Him as a friend. You say that you worship God, but you are always dealing in hypocrisy and sectarianism and arguing about silly symbols. What is this crucifix you have? You must have been really backward savages if you ever used a thing like this on your own people. And still you have the symbol and wear it around your neck. I suppose it is to remind you how very barbaric you used to be.

We still cannot understand why it is that you have not developed a single scientific belief system.

It is really easy to understand.

Light

I think that it is more to do with your invention of "Big Brother" and the thought police, just because you know that God knows all that you do, and you want to make excuses to get rid of people, so you can be greedy.

This is not very nice to be like this to your own people.

I think it is because you have too many people and they use too much oil and fuel and you need it to stay warm.

But you had horses, but you play "cowboys" & "indians" with them.

You even refer to some of your people as foreign even though you KNOW that you all live on the same planet! Very strange.

Well, that is up to you I suppose, but if you read your Bible, unless you can become immortal the outlook is not a good one.

We have taken all manner of measures on our planet to avoid pestilence, famine, war and death.

Still, you insist on saying that you know what you are doing.

It looks to Us that you are killing each other because you are very factionalised and cannot organise things properly.

You are very obsessed with weapons, entertaining, and hating each other.

You have also never grown up about normal male-female relationships.

Still it is very interesting to study you.

I hope that none of Us are offending you, as We always try to be inoffensive everywhere we go.

If you see Us flying around, don't worry, because We are NOT allowed to hurt you.

It is against the Universal Intergalactic Law do do so.

But we have to try to stop you hurting each other as it causes suffering, and this is not nice.

Jayjay

No, the God you described does not exist for Joyfilled. His god is not cruel at all, he's everyone's bestest friend and is going to show all the nasty atheists wrong someday. Your little rant didn't challenge this relationship at all, on the contrary (if he read it at all) it just enforced his belief that atheists also believe in God and just want to rebel. Just like his God told him...

Playing along with fundie delusions is hardly a confrontation.

Light

Thank you JayJay, It is nice of you to like Me. You will like my Angels too.

I hope that you have enjoyed Creation and been very nice to everyone you meet and helped them all as much as you can.

Some of the people here are not so nice, but then they are only human.