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Veovis · 03-03-2005, 06:32 PM

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Veovis, you do know that there were flying dinosaurs, don't you? Archaeopteryx comes to mind.

That is irrelavent to my point, which you don't seem to understand. The Bible says that there were birds before there were any terrestrial animals. The fossil record proves this completely false.

Hyndis · 03-03-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bible Thumper

Considering 500 years later, the Greeks, Romans and Assiryans believed Earth was held up by some dude named Atlas and some schmuck named Apollo was responsible for bouncing the sun from east to west each day, I'd have to say that Geneis is one accurate account on Creation.
Too accurate, maybe.
In fact, it's so accurate, that its STIIIIIIIIIL being discussed in scientific circles and on internet message boards as Earth enters the 21st Century.
It's got to tell you something about Genesis!

http://galileoandeinstein.physics.vi...s/gkastr1.html

Try again.

Spaz · 03-03-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bible Thumper

That didn't? That didn't what, spaz? Please tell me. That didn't what?! Well?!

Can't read the quote? It's all purple shaded and shit to make it stand out from the rest of the post. I even copied your style, to kind of make a link to what you said, but I guess when you're the kind of person that asks the same question three times in a reply before you post it...

You asked a question about knowledge of flying dinosaurs, and I replied that those came after the ones that didn't. That kinda fucks up the whole biblical accuracy thing. The bible isn't accurate, get over it, it was written far before anybody had knowledge about such things. You and your ilk are the only ones that expect the people that wrote it to have this knowledge.

Cobalt · 03-03-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bible Thumper

That didn't? That didn't what, spaz? Please tell me. That didn't what?! Well?!

Fly.

The Bible Thumper · 03-03-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Refused

My challenge to you, TBT:

Please give a secular source that coincides with your version of cosmology. (creationism)

If you can do that, I will promise to consider your points.

See, the thing is, I can give Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, etc.. sources for my version.

C'mon, let's see if you will answer the challenge. :wave:

- Refused, who's just asking for it

[sigh]
Refused, I not only gave an Earth scientist analogue TWICE, but also supplied you with a link that shows my standpoint clearly on the matter! Genesis, as opposed to pagans, romans, grecians and even scientists up to the 20th century, has proven to be an accuurate accounting of Creation! Why do you and people like you have such a hard time with that? Can't you just go back tot he link I supplied? It mirrors everything Earth scientists and Cosmologists have said, and reflects clearly my knowledge, as well! Just go back and read the link. Or, bury thru the many threads here to find mine, which says the same, basic thing. Does this answer your question? If not, then let me know...

The Bible Thumper · 03-03-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaz

Can't read the quote? It's all purple shaded and shit to make it stand out from the rest of the post. I even copied your style, to kind of make a link to what you said, but I guess when you're the kind of person that asks the same question three times in a reply before you post it...

You asked a question about knowledge of flying dinosaurs, and I replied that those came after the ones that didn't. That kinda fucks up the whole biblical accuracy thing. The bible isn't accurate, get over it, it was written far before anybody had knowledge about such things. You and your ilk are the only ones that expect the people that wrote it to have this knowledge.

[sigh]

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it was written far before anybody had knowledge about such things.

I've given up on you...

Godfather · 03-03-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Link you posted

(Genesis 1:1, ~16 x 109 years ago) [/I]

Where the hell do they get this? Do they derive this number from the text anywhere?

Godfather · 03-03-2005, 07:01 PM

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Next, God removed much of the cloud cover, when He stated, "Let there be light" (Genesis 1:3) This was the light of the Sun (already created) which now "separated light from darkness" (Genesis 1:4). It is very clear from the text that the sun had already been created and the earth was rotating on its axis, since there was light (day) and darkness (night) (Genesis 1:5).

If the light already existed. How did he (Gen 1:4) seperate the light from the darkness?

Godfather · 03-03-2005, 07:02 PM

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We know from science this is where the first unicellular life forms first appeared

Do you believe in evolution now?

Hyndis · 03-03-2005, 07:02 PM

Meanwhile Bible Thumper ignores how the Greeks figured out the size of the Earth, moon and sun, as well as their distances and even the heliocentric theory some five centuries before his precious book was written...

The Greeks weren't 100% accurate, of course. But they did amazingly well using just their eyeballs. The main reason why the heliocentric theorey was eventually rejected was that they didn't see parallax with other stars as the Earth went around the sun.

But such parallax does exist.

The Greeks just didn't have really big telescopes to notice it.

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Hyndis Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,588	Meanwhile Bible Thumper ignores how the Greeks figured out the size of the Earth, moon and sun, as well as their distances and even the heliocentric theory some five centuries before his precious book was written... The Greeks weren't 100% accurate, of course. But they did amazingly well using just their eyeballs. The main reason why the heliocentric theorey was eventually rejected was that they didn't see parallax with other stars as the Earth went around the sun. But such parallax does exist. The Greeks just didn't have really big telescopes to notice it.

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