Vorkosigan

Not to mention exceedingly stupid and ignorant of reality.

Vorkosigan

aa5874

Your statement is extremely odd for some one who believes in God. When you put forward the notion that Jesus was KNOWN to be a man, was KNOWN to be a sinner like all other men, was NOT the Son of God and could NOT have died for the Sins of mankind--you discredit YOUR early Christian brothers and sisters as Liars and Deceivers.

If Jesus was a man, was crucified who merely died then those like Peter and Paul, if they did live, were Deceivers.

It is just NOT reasonable to expect a religion to have started by known Blatant Lies and Deception when those who could DETECT the Lies and Deception were still alive.

The Jesus cult did NOT start because of a man--it started because the Temple fell.

Doug Shaver

Nonsense. Christianity as we know it can exist for as long as humanity exists.

Of course, if Jesus was never a god, then Christianity has always been wrong, but its rightness or wrongness has nothing to do with its existence.

stephan huller

No one would have developed the liturgy of the Christian religion if they had believed that Jesus was a man. I wish Americans actually familiarized themselves with what Christianity is rather than what is familiar to them.

aa5874

It is so obvious that the Jesus cult was most likely based on BELIEF rather than on history. It was the story that was BELIEVED to be true.

We have the earliest Canonized story in gMark.

People of antiquity merely believed the gMark story was true and the Jesus cult was started.

Solo

This however looks uncomfortably close to the line taken by the Jerusalem biblical academics when they "swooped down" (Mk 3:22) on the Galilean village idiot's riotous reading of the scriptures.

Best,
Jiri

EarlDoherty

I think you've twisted this one (or someone has). When people stop believing in received wisdom--which is what academia too often represents--they then become *open to* evaluating for themselves other theories which don't agree with that received wisdom.

Earl Doherty

la70119

I for one have seen Catholic liturgy and what passes for church services in evangelical / fundamentalist churches and the difference is like day and night. Or like something that is very, very, old versus something new that was invented by idiots who just fell off the turnip truck.

stephan huller

Agreed. I don't quite understand what the attraction to someone like Joel Olsteen is for instance. But then again the United States has a long history of successful snake oil salesmen.

aa5874

Well, if one day Joel Olsteen claims Jesus did NOT exist you will quickly understand.