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Tigers! · 06-26-2007, 05:54 AM

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We are in the 21st century, science has explained most of the laws of physics. Astronomy has taken us right back to a fraction of a second after the Big bang. We now know how the universe evolved to it's present state. And we know how life began and evolved, thanks to people like Charles Darwin. What I would ask of Christians is, with all this evidence in front of you. And not a shred of evidence of any god needed to accomplish all this.
Why do you believe in God? And why?

I've always wondered where those laws of Physics came from.

dog-on · 06-26-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by angelo atheist

We are in the 21st century, science has explained most of the laws of physics. Astronomy has taken us right back to a fraction of a second after the Big bang. We now know how the universe evolved to it's present state. And we know how life began and evolved, thanks to people like Charles Darwin. What I would ask of Christians is, with all this evidence in front of you. And not a shred of evidence of any god needed to accomplish all this.
Why do you believe in God? And why?

I've always wondered where those laws of Physics came from.

Observation :wave:

Johnny Skeptic · 06-26-2007, 06:01 AM

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I've always wondered where those laws of Physics came from.

Possibly from a God who never revealed himself to anyone in a book. Any deist will tell you that.

Gundulf · 06-26-2007, 06:04 AM

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We know how life began?

Yes, we know how in-organic matter became organic and started replicating itself.

Really? Perhaps you will show me a demonstration sometime...

Also, we know what happened 'right back to a fraction of a second after the Big bang' - means you seem to admit that we are as yet totally dumbfounded on the idea of how the big bang got started. Hence, perhaps God might have been necessary at that point?

This is why there is still some basis for going back to "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

(Just tossed that in to stay on the 'biblical' topic...)

dog-on · 06-26-2007, 06:04 AM

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of course, that is completely unlike the case for the Theory of Evolution, (which takes over once life has actually started...)...

Well that is a given because the eight ball must exist before you can be behind it.

:Cheeky:

Chili · 06-26-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by angelo atheist

Yes, we know how in-organic matter became organic and started replicating itself.

Also, we know what happened 'right back to a fraction of a second after the Big bang' - means you seem to admit that we are as yet totally dumbfounded on the idea of how the big bang got started. Hence, perhaps God might have been necessary at that point?

But he still is necessary and every bang is still big.
those who see this take off their shoes --
the rest just sit around and pick berries.
(adapted from Ellizabeth Barret Browning).

ksen · 06-26-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by angelo atheist

We are in the 21st century, science has explained most of the laws of physics. Astronomy has taken us right back to a fraction of a second after the Big bang. We now know how the universe evolved to it's present state. And we know how life began and evolved, thanks to people like Charles Darwin. What I would ask of Christians is, with all this evidence in front of you. And not a shred of evidence of any god needed to accomplish all this.
Why do you believe in God? And why?

Gosh, it sounds like you have everything pretty much wrapped up.

When do the labs start closing down?

ksen · 06-26-2007, 08:51 AM

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We know how life began?

Yes, we know how in-organic matter became organic and started replicating itself.

Really?

Ok, how?

Toto · 06-26-2007, 11:05 AM

OK, the moderator is here, which other forum will be blessed with this mess? We always pick on GRD. But I think this concerns the Existence of God(s), and there just happens to be a forum devoted to that conundrum.

Fasten your seatbelts. . .

GenesisNemesis · 06-26-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gundulf

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

(Just tossed that in to stay on the 'biblical' topic...)

And the Bible is the absolute Word of God, so hey, it can't be wrong. Why can't it be wrong?

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Hence, perhaps God might have been necessary at that point?

God is never "necessary" for anything. The idea doesn't even explain anything well at all, you can't even look at any evidence for it. All the Bible says is "God did it", from the very first verse, and it offers no evidence.

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06-26-2007, 11:05 AM	#19
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	OK, the moderator is here, which other forum will be blessed with this mess? We always pick on GRD. But I think this concerns the Existence of God(s), and there just happens to be a forum devoted to that conundrum. Fasten your seatbelts. . .

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