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Old 05-17-2007, 05:31 AM   #31
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the definition by Red Dave fits quite well (though not 100%):
The first is that cranks do not participate in scientific conferences or peer-reviewed journals, but instead write for journals they themselves edit, and speak before groups they themselves founded.

Second, they believe that the failure of the scientific community to adopt their beliefs represents widespread stupidity or corruption on behalf of the entire scientific community.
Just for the record, much as I'd like to take credit for this definition, it is attributed by the original source to Martin Gardner in his work Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science.

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Old 05-17-2007, 07:20 AM   #32
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No, actually, I don't.
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Both Price and Carrier, besides publishing in their own journals (Price founded JHC, if I recall correctly) also either publish, or in the case of the latter, intend to publish, in respectable journals as well.
I don't think Carrier is a Mythicist. Or is he?

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Just for the record, much as I'd like to take credit for this definition, it is attributed by the original source to Martin Gardner [...]
Sorry, I should have written "quoted by Red Dave".
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I don't think Carrier is a Mythicist. Or is he?
Indeed he is Carrier Converts to Mythicist Position
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