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Hex · 05-10-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Larsguy47

I wasn't talking about the wood itself being rotted away but the earth being eroded away.

Page 261 "The houses of the Late Bronze Age Jericho have thereore almost entirely disappeared. We have already seen that over most of the summit of the tell even the houses of the certainly populous Middle Bronze Age town have vanished, and only levels of the Early Bronze Age remain. We have also seen how the process of erosion was washing away the Middle Bronze Age houses on the east slope..."

LG47

Lars, I wonder how thin you think these layers are ... Here, from Garstang:

Note that he finds an LB layer. Huh. And it sits right over the MB layer ...

Now, you can also look at Kenyon's trench:

Why doesn't she have an LB layer in there? Well, sure, erosion. But there's no similar erosion to the north. Where's your wall remains, Lars?

Not there. I also did a quick literature search. I can't find a -single- archaeological report that shows that -any- site in the Middle East used wooden walls for defense. Not even when wood was abundant.

You want sources for descriptions of Climate Change, deforestation, and the problems with reforestation in the Levant? Here:

Redefining Chronology and Terminology for the Chalcolithic of the Southern
Levant, by A. H. Joffe; J. P. Dessel, Current Anthropology, Vol. 36, No. 3. (Jun., 1995), pp. 507-518.

The Ecology of Seasonal Stress and the Origins of Agriculture in the Near East, by Joy McCorriston; Frank Hole, American Anthropologist, New Series, Vol. 93, No. 1. (Mar., 1991), pp. 46-69.

Archaeology in Israel, by Samuel R. Wolff, American Journal of Archaeology, Vol. 95, No. 3. (Jul., 1991), pp. 489-538.

Climatic Changes of the Last 18,000 Years: Observations and Model Simulations, COHMAP Members, Science, New Series, Vol. 241, No. 4869. (Aug. 26, 1988), pp. 1043-1052.

Archeological Geology of Tel Yin'am, Galilee, Israel, by Harold Liebowitz; Robert L. Folk, Journal of Field Archaeology, Vol. 7, No. 1. (Spring, 1980), pp. 23-42.

enoch007 · 05-10-2007, 10:19 AM

Perhaps the walls were not such a critical factor. While reading "History of the Jews (or via: amazon.co.uk)" by Paul Johnson (top of my head without book in front of me, I believe that is authors name), he posits the belief that there were never only one group of Israelites concentrated only in one place (or taking part in one Exodus) at a time and that the Israelites who conquered Caananite cities did so with the help of existing populations of kinsman already settled within, fifth columns, it you will. Any type of wall is highly suceptible to subversion from within.

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR · 05-10-2007, 08:03 PM

I've decided to go full force on this project Larsguy47. I'm going to do everything in 3D in stead of 2d! This way people can see your scenerio from any angle.

I'll be workong with Truespace, Bryce, Lightwave, Anim8or, and Poser. Poser has people alreeady to dress and pose, so I'm even going to put people in it!

I also want this to be as realistic as possible so, yet another question... what kind of trees would you suggest to use? We have palm trees around here in abundance and I figure I'll take some pictures of them, made into lumber, to map on the models. Do you think that will be close enough?

Toto · 05-11-2007, 02:07 PM

NOTE: You might have noticed that Larsguy47 has been banned. His appearance here seems to be part of an elaborate hoax. Not all of the details are clear yet, but there's no point in trying to argue against him. I will leave this thread open for now.

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05-10-2007, 10:19 AM	#42
enoch007 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,047	Perhaps the walls were not such a critical factor. While reading "History of the Jews (or via: amazon.co.uk)" by Paul Johnson (top of my head without book in front of me, I believe that is authors name), he posits the belief that there were never only one group of Israelites concentrated only in one place (or taking part in one Exodus) at a time and that the Israelites who conquered Caananite cities did so with the help of existing populations of kinsman already settled within, fifth columns, it you will. Any type of wall is highly suceptible to subversion from within.

05-10-2007, 08:03 PM	#43
DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Paradise! aka Panama City Beach, Fla. USofA Posts: 1,923	I've decided to go full force on this project Larsguy47. I'm going to do everything in 3D in stead of 2d! This way people can see your scenerio from any angle. I'll be workong with Truespace, Bryce, Lightwave, Anim8or, and Poser. Poser has people alreeady to dress and pose, so I'm even going to put people in it! I also want this to be as realistic as possible so, yet another question... what kind of trees would you suggest to use? We have palm trees around here in abundance and I figure I'll take some pictures of them, made into lumber, to map on the models. Do you think that will be close enough?

05-11-2007, 02:07 PM	#44
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	NOTE: You might have noticed that Larsguy47 has been banned. His appearance here seems to be part of an elaborate hoax. Not all of the details are clear yet, but there's no point in trying to argue against him. I will leave this thread open for now.

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