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Old 09-28-2005, 02:09 AM   #41
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I think it might be that he's confused (what's new?) about -- amongst other things -- the difference between the basic terms Aramaic and umm, Semitic. :banghead:

He's still confused about the differences between translation artefacts and substratum.

He's also confused about the applicability of his own adopted criterion, as he has no response to the lack of redundant preposition in Peshitta Lk, which by his criterion should say that it was translated from Greek.

Aww c'mon, judge. You run and hide in every silly subterfuge just so you don't have to contemplate your errors. When are you going to face anything?

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It's plain that your source hasn't got the idea of what a linguistic substratum is.spin
Here the guru is knocking other sources to establish himslef as the know-it-all of the forum.

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It is actually linguistically improbable that Mk was simply translated from a Semitic language. There would be no great reason why a translator should use the underlying grammatical features of the original language, unless of course he had a Semitic background, but then how do you tell whether it was the translator who maintains the Aramaic substratum or it was a person writing Greek with a Semitic substratum??
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This come from a guru that does not know :huh: Greek. He is making statements beyond his understanding . It is best to stick to what he knows. Like flipping hamburgers. Please, more salt on the frech fries!
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judge's self-disception marks the sum total of his lack of content. spin
This is a typical depreciating statament coming from the guru.
All who disagree with the guru are "self-decieved." (Pastor Substratum said this last Sunday at the church of St. Gaucho.)
He is never wrong, is he?

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Asked numerous times to explain how he can distinguish between translation artefacts and substratum,
He is stuck on this 'substratum,' it makes him sound sophisticated, even though he does not know what he is talking about.
Where did he learn this substratum? Did he serve "substratum sandwiches" at Macdonald's?
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This sort of naive linguistics is no help whatsoever and judge apparently can't bring himself to admit it. spin
Here is again the normal lingo of the guru. Everyone who disagrees with him is naive. This is good scholarhip.
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:18 PM   #44
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Pilate - if you think that spin is wrong, please produce some evidence or arguments, not name-calling.
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:23 PM   #45
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Aww c'mon, judge. You run and hide in every silly subterfuge just so you don't have to contemplate your errors. When are you going to face anything?
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The guru is bullying again. He cannot win argument with facts. He just redicules. Don't be intimidated by him. His is just a balloon. All you need is a needle to pop him up.
He talks above your head to make you think he is talking something important. But we got him figured out. He is full of Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...oooops!
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Pilate - if you think that spin is wrong, please produce some evidence or arguments, not name-calling.
Toto,
I produce many pieces of evidence. That's is all have been doing since i came here. He disregared most of it and resorted on rediculing.
He did the same thing I am doing. How come you did not caution him?
He called me names and made this kind of statements.
Are you showing preferrential treatment?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, how does it feel?
What is good for the goose ... should't be good for the gander?
I can beat him in this game and I can beat him in the other. I have lots of evidence.
I resorted to this game to show you how how he is acting.
All along I have been suggesting to take the higher road: be respectful and polite, considerate of the feelings of others. And some of you have been interpreting this as a sign of weakness, saying you got to be strong to take this kind of treatment, 'don't take it seriously," and such.
Fire has to be treated with fire. And to teach the guru how it feels we have to give him back some of the treatment he has been dishing to others.
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Toto,
I produce many pieces of evidence. That's is all have been doing since i came here. He disregared most of it and resorted on rediculing.
He did the same thing I am doing. How come you did not caution him?
He called me names and made this kind of statements.
Are you showing preferrential treatment?
He did not call you names. He did not think highly of your evidence, and said so.

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Now that the shoe is on the other foot, how does it feel?
What is good for the goose ... should't be good for the gander?
I can beat him in this game and I can beat him in the other. I have lots of evidence.
I resorted to this game to show you how how he is acting.
I see now what you are doing, but I think you have missed the point.

I suggest that you come up with your "other evidence" and stop playing this game.
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Here is again the normal lingo of the guru. Everyone who disagrees with him is naive. This is good scholarhip.
Hey pilate, Hi there. I think one needs to have a sense of humor around here.

After all it's is only an internet discussion forum. People might post here for a variety of reasons, not necessarily to learn.

Maybe you just should lower your expectations of others and have agood laugh!

There are a number of excellent contributors to this forum, but hey if they even let me post here then obviously the barriers to entry are quite low.

Don't fall into the traps. I am appreciating your posts and attempts to learn something and post some evidence.
Keep up the good word.

P.S. Check your private message box.
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Hey pilate, Hi there. I think one needs to have a sense of humor around here. .
Thanks for the advice. When I was asking everyone to show respect to others, I lost my humor. Now, I changed my tune and I got it back. We are in for a lot of fun!
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After all it's is only an internet discussion forum. People might post here for a variety of reasons, not necessarily to learn.

Maybe you just should lower your expectations of others and have agood laugh! ..
You've go this right. God bless you! God works in mysterious ways!
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