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seebs · 03-08-2005, 06:18 AM

Wait, that's ikester7579? I knew him at CF.

Argh. The search thing is dead, so I can't check whether he's the guy who wrote the thread I'm thinking of.

Unaffiliated · 03-08-2005, 06:19 AM

Ikester has a million dollar challenge on his website, so I sent him an email asking what I thought was the most important question. How do I know you have the money? He danced in every way imagineable, he accused me of being a nigerian trying to scam him, cut and pasted the info from his site. I came to the conclusion that he doesn't have the money. I think I saved the emails if anyone is interested.

seebs · 03-08-2005, 06:28 AM

http://www.christianforums.com/t7812...-the-line.html

ikester7579 is a nasty, evil, man who lies when he's caught preaching the absolute rejection of the Gospel. It's not just that he's bearing false witness against Jet Black. It's that he rejects Christianity entirely.

"a) There would be no place for those to go who do bad things. Do you want killers, murders, child molesters etc... in Heaven with you? That's exactly what you get when there's no Hell. Where else would they go?"

The man who wrote this is as far from Christianity as one can be while paying lip service to it.

Please ignore him. And, if you're the praying sort, pray for him.

Because he is the sort of person who might edit a post to escape its implications, I quoted the key segment. You may rest assured it's all like that.

post tenebras lux · 03-08-2005, 06:34 AM

I wonder if he's putting our posts up as photos as a way to try and stop us finding our own work via a simple Google. Yep, our own work, work that is copyrighted by IIDB.

So don't you think that someone (like the Mods reading this) should contact the IIDB Admin staff and inform them of this copyright violation by dear beloved Member No. 1?

Who wants to take him to the proverbial cleaners, or at least ask him to include the necessary copyright information?

Luxie

seebs · 03-08-2005, 06:36 AM

What a sad, sad, man.

I say again; all we can do is pray for him. He has no love of truth left.

Matt the Medic · 03-08-2005, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervy

I want to know where these "hidden" forums are that he talks about. Apparently this thread was moved to one of them.

We are all therefore just imagining that we are reading it here...

You forget that ~Elsewhere~ and the Lounge are only available to logged-on members here. Log off and see! That's why he must think it's some secret: he can't lurk and actually has to register.

seebs · 03-08-2005, 06:38 AM

If he registers, I will have to be extra careful in the way I describe his apostacy, won't I.

Matt the Medic · 03-08-2005, 06:40 AM

As far as copyright violation, I don't think it would apply unless II chooses to use your post for commercial reasons. I don't believe there is anything to prevent copy parts or even whole posts from one fora to another, but I will bring the issue up in the mod board and get back to you.

post tenebras lux · 03-08-2005, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intrepidation

You forget that ~Elsewhere~ and the Lounge are only available to logged-on members here. Log off and see! That's why he must think it's some secret: he can't lurk and actually has to register.

Nope. He discounts that when he states:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dear_member_number_1

It asks you to log into their forum, which won't give you access either. Must be one of those secret forum things they claim they don't have.

So he can't be just claiming that they're either in The Lounge or Elsewhere unless by 'won't give you access' means that our Admins wouldn't let him register as a user on IIDB.

Which I doubt, as our Admins are not total killjoys from what I've seen and generally allow suicidal Christians to throw themselves to the lions at least once or twice before stopping our fun.

Luxie

Dean Anderson · 03-08-2005, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intrepidation

You forget that ~Elsewhere~ and the Lounge are only available to logged-on members here. Log off and see! That's why he must think it's some secret: he can't lurk and actually has to register.

No I didn't forget that. He explicitely says that it is invisible even when logged in...

Quote:

Here's the last post as thread was hidden at the last moment. I just got there in the nick of time to get what was said there. But like I said, they can't own up to what they do so they hide as they hid this thread. I would leave a link, but there's nothing to read. It asks you to log into their forum, which won't give you access either. Must be one of those secret forum things they claim they don't have.

(my emphasis)

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03-08-2005, 06:18 AM	#11
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Wait, that's ikester7579? I knew him at CF. Argh. The search thing is dead, so I can't check whether he's the guy who wrote the thread I'm thinking of.

03-08-2005, 06:19 AM	#12
Unaffiliated Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cleveland Oh, But I want to leave Posts: 604	Ikester has a million dollar challenge on his website, so I sent him an email asking what I thought was the most important question. How do I know you have the money? He danced in every way imagineable, he accused me of being a nigerian trying to scam him, cut and pasted the info from his site. I came to the conclusion that he doesn't have the money. I think I saved the emails if anyone is interested.

03-08-2005, 06:28 AM	#13
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	http://www.christianforums.com/t7812...-the-line.html ikester7579 is a nasty, evil, man who lies when he's caught preaching the absolute rejection of the Gospel. It's not just that he's bearing false witness against Jet Black. It's that he rejects Christianity entirely. "a) There would be no place for those to go who do bad things. Do you want killers, murders, child molesters etc... in Heaven with you? That's exactly what you get when there's no Hell. Where else would they go?" The man who wrote this is as far from Christianity as one can be while paying lip service to it. Please ignore him. And, if you're the praying sort, pray for him. Because he is the sort of person who might edit a post to escape its implications, I quoted the key segment. You may rest assured it's all like that.

03-08-2005, 06:34 AM	#14
post tenebras lux Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Republic and Canton of Geneva Posts: 5,756	I wonder if he's putting our posts up as photos as a way to try and stop us finding our own work via a simple Google. Yep, our own work, work that is copyrighted by IIDB. So don't you think that someone (like the Mods reading this) should contact the IIDB Admin staff and inform them of this copyright violation by dear beloved Member No. 1? Who wants to take him to the proverbial cleaners, or at least ask him to include the necessary copyright information? Luxie

03-08-2005, 06:36 AM	#15
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	What a sad, sad, man. I say again; all we can do is pray for him. He has no love of truth left.

03-08-2005, 06:38 AM	#17
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	If he registers, I will have to be extra careful in the way I describe his apostacy, won't I.

03-08-2005, 06:40 AM	#18
Matt the Medic Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,584	As far as copyright violation, I don't think it would apply unless II chooses to use your post for commercial reasons. I don't believe there is anything to prevent copy parts or even whole posts from one fora to another, but I will bring the issue up in the mod board and get back to you.

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