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Old 08-27-2006, 03:01 PM   #11
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Since it doesn't cut and paste well to here, you'll have to go to his site to see the legend which shows that the 70th occurrence of the digit '7' beginning in 538BC is found in the number 167BC.

I found his overall discussion quite compelling.

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Most prophecy fanatics will tell you that bible prophetic contexts and timelines use the Jewish (lunar) calendar. Did Mueller adjust for the Jewish lunar (religious) calendar? If not, then his entire schema just collapsed, since in any given fixed timeframe, there will be more Jewish years elapsing than Gregorian years, because the Jewish year is shorter. Which, of course, will re-arrange which years have the digit "7" in them, and which don't.

It will also result in a higher net total of years elapsing between the start point and the end point.

Speaking of digits, Mueller's hypothesis only seems to work if used in conjunction with one particular calendar - the Gregorian calendar - which divides time into BCE and CE (or BC and AD). Which means that this won't work using the Jewish calendar, Roman calendar, Chinese imperial calendar, or the calendar of the pre-revolution USSR. Still find it compelling?

All in all,, it seems to be a "hidden bible code" kind of thing to me. A coincidence based upon a calendar.
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since in any given fixed timeframe, there will be more Jewish years elapsing than Gregorian years, because the Jewish year is shorter.
Not really because the leap months take care of that.

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The '70 weeks' prophecy is considered by Christian apologists to be one of the most convincing prophecies of the timing of Jesus' arrival.
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Other people liken it to Drossan's Bible Codes. Anyone looking hard enough can find the same prophesy in Moby Dick.
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Other people liken it to Drossan's Bible Codes. Anyone looking hard enough can find the same prophesy in Moby Dick.
Perhaps, but if the standard interpretation of seventy sevens is "seventy weeks of years", then the timing of the anointed one would be within 100 years or so of Jesus no matter which of the usual starting points one chooses. For those that believe the book is prophetic and legit, this prophecy is often very convincing, and understandably.

And for those that think Daniel was not legit but was a 2 Century BC document, Muller's interpretation of the 70 weeks is more consistent with such a viewpoint than any other I've seen, because it takes the prophecy and has it being fulfilled just after the time the liberal scholars believe it was written! I am not aware of other traditional liberal viewpoints that are able to do that, though I haven't looked into it much.

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