Originally Posted by archaeologist

Yet they can still die of diabetes or diabetes related illnesses plus insulin shock and over-doses of insulin. kidney dialysis is only a temporary fix and doe snot heal the infected kidney. there are many examples of where science fails and you only look at the things that fit your argument not the whole picture.

Originally Posted by archaeologist

One fo the problems in dealing with opponents of the Bible on this subject is that they become literalists when it suits them. You are forgetting that, like today, people who did not accept God's word as written changed the Bible to fit their beliefs (Latoourette:2003:133)

You cannot expect to find every ancient mss. to be what the disciples wrote, that is just unrealistic given the above fact. A modern day example would be the Jehovah Witnesses and the man who wrote 'the message' and the woman scholar who did her own version (the names slip my mind at the moment)

To point to just any mss. and say that the Bible has been edited would be wrong and based upon false assumptions. God promised to preserve His word thus we must have faith and confidence that He has done so regardless of the many altered texts of the past.

Actually, I rely on God to bring me to the right doctor and the right treatment but your argument does not prove that truth changes, all science is doing is learning the truth from its past mistakes. The Bible doesn't have t do that for it is the truth and has made no mistakes.

You also forget that science is filled with fallible, corrupt men who do not listen to God and do things to make money not to heal their patients thus you cannot even make the argument you are making because you are not being honest and using all the data available.

You also forget that science doesn't fix things. How many medicines have side effects worse than the disease? And you forget when science can't fix things and babies (SID), children (diseases) teens, (accidents caused by science) and adults die.

You want science to fix things because it would give you an alternative to the Bible and God but in reality science is powerless.

This is an erroneous idea and the modern world has bought into believing ancient tales and extrapolating that belief upon the ancients. You forget that Roman shipwrecks have been found in South America, that the Pheonicians and the Minoans were great sailors, and other evidence from geographers etc., who plotted the circumference of the globe to within modern measurments.

You also mistakenly think that some scriptural passages present the idea that the Biblical writers considerd the world flat but that is an erroneous interpretation of those passages.

Originally Posted by archaeologist

You also mistakenly think that some scriptural passages present the idea that the Biblical writers considerd the world flat but that is an erroneous interpretation of those passages.

Originally Posted by archaeologist

......again you are missing the point and purposefully omitting information so you can make your point. science does not fix things because people still die even if they are taking medication. science cannot change the fact that death happens to everyone. it is limited and may only prolong misry, drain your bank accounts (medical costs) and that is not a good thing.

Originally Posted by archaeologist

never even said that. we were talking about 'fixing things'and i pointed out a limitation which shows that science really doesn't fix things.

you would be wrong as you forget that people have free choice and can choose to not follow scriptures correctly or listen to God's leading. you just like to generalize because it makes you think you have a good argument when all you are doing is being dishonest.