FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Religion (Closed) > Non Abrahamic Religions & Philosophies
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Yesterday at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-19-2007, 07:10 AM   #11
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 19,796
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger
You are of course implying that God (of the Bible) is not good. That raises in my mind the question of what is your definition of good? How do you measure good or evil? What is your yardstick? Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) accept your definition of good or evil as applied to God or any other being?
As judged by what the Bible says is good, sometimes God is not good, such as when he murders babies, with no apparent benefits for himself and for the babies who he kills. When God decides to practice what he preaches, maybe then you will have some good arguments to make.

If God is not obligated to keep his own rules, then he is not obligated to tell the truth, right? How is telling a lie any worse than killing babies? If God committed a sin, how would you know it?

What evidence do you have that everything that God does is fair and just? Any dictatorial tyrant who has sufficient power is able to enforce rules of his own choosing, but that does not necessarily mean that his actions are fair and just.

Is it your position that a creator must by necessity be fair and just, or just the God of the Bible?
Johnny Skeptic is offline  
Old 06-21-2007, 07:42 AM   #12
Donn10
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

It is not necessary for a creator to be good....unless the creator claims to be good. If a creator god claimed to be good but was not actually good then either the god is a lier and cannot be trusted or the god is nothing more than a myth.

Yes, I am deciding what is good. If no god(s) exists than my definition of good is debatable. Were biblegod to exist than I would have gained my knowledge of good through Adam and therefore have all the knowledge I need to determine that biblegod is not good and is either a lier or a myth
 
Old 06-21-2007, 08:01 PM   #13
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 19,796
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers
You are of course implying that God (of the Bible) is not good. That raises in my mind the question of what is your definition of good? How do you measure good or evil? What is your yardstick? Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) accept your definition of good or evil as applied to God or any other being?
As judged by what the Bible says is good, sometimes God is not good, such as when he murders babies, with no apparent benefits for himself and for the babies who he kills. When God decides to practice what he preaches, maybe then you will have some good arguments to make.

If God is not obligated to keep his own rules, then he is not obligated to tell the truth, right? How is telling a lie any worse than killing babies?

If God committed a sin, how would you know it?

What evidence do you have that everything that God does is fair and just? Any dictatorial tyrant who has sufficient power is able to enforce rules of his own choosing, but that does not necessarily mean that his actions are fair and just.

Are you suggesting that God is good because you say so, or because some Bible writers who presumed to speak for God said so? Anyone can presume to speak for God. How can we tell who is and who is not speaking for God?
Johnny Skeptic is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:45 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.