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Old 08-15-2001, 04:59 AM   #31
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Well, let's look at what is being prophesied.

Deuteronomy18-19: Predicts a prophet, could be any prophet, doesn't say when he will appear. No big deal.

Isiah: Looks like a messianic prophecy. Was Jesus the promised Messiah? He failed to fulfil various messianic prophecies (which is why Jews don't recognize him), so I guess not.

Psalm 22 isn't written as a prophecy, but as a lament. Futhermore, there are doubts about the correct translation of "pierced my hands and my feet".
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V 28-31 are fulfilled through the fact that jesus is and has been the governing factor concerning good and evil over the worlds nations in general over the last 2000 yrs not to mention the amount of people that consider him as thay return to dust and become aware of there hopelessness and his offer of salvation.
Christians have always been a minority, most people have always looked elsewhere for their morality.

Isiah 11: Another prophet, accompanied by various signs and portents which didn't actually happen.

In a book the size of the Bible, it's inevitable that they would get something right (especially with a little creative interpretation). But before you get too carried away, check out the ones they got wrong, at False Prophecies, Broken Promises, and Misquotes.
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Old 08-15-2001, 03:26 PM   #32
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thanks for the reply adrienne and for the detailed explanations. work has been busy, but i want to look at what everyone has written more closely later this week or this weekend for sure.

when i posted that i had also asked this question, which therefore proved the prophecy, i was really making a joke. i was trying to point out how weird coincidences don't prove prophecy is real.

thanks for posing the question. a lot of people think about this one.

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Old 08-16-2001, 10:21 AM   #33
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Hey Truthseeker:

Check out all the "propehcies" in Moby Dick;
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

Anyone can play this game.

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Old 08-18-2001, 04:36 PM   #34
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Originally posted by Adrienne Williams:
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1. Considering that the decree to restore Jerusalem mentioned was given in 536 BC, the addition of 69 weeks of years to that only gets you to around 50 BC, not anywhere near the time Jesus was allegedly crucified.
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Adrienne;
I do not quite follow this discussion,
however, I found this in The Antiquities of the JewsBOOK 15, CONTAINING AN INTERVAL OF EIGHTEEN YEARS FROM THE DEATH OF ANTIGONAS TO THE FINISHING OF THE TEMPLE BY HEROD

I am not writing about the death of Antigonas but about the murder of his son Aristobulus in 39 b.c.e. This story begins about verse 51. Aristobulus may well have been a Messiah. The Book of Daniel has a close association with Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Shortly after Aristobulus' murder the temple was completed (they both fell within the interval of 18 years). I have read where the Book of Daniel was written during the Maccabean period, and even though this is at
the very end of the period it still qualifies.

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