Because you're waffling now when asked to back it up.


That's all very nice.

However, your claim was that a majority of scholars hold this position.

Giving me your Christmas list of favorite authors is not the same thing as showing that a majority of scholars holds this position.


Red herring. I understand precisely what your claim was, and the context in which you made it.

Once again, your claim:


What's the point of me bringing this up? It's an object lesson for you, deLayman.

You've just made a sweeping appeal to authority here - christ you do it all the time; finding an example wasn't that hard. You hope to impress everyone or silence your critics by saying that the majority of scholars hold a position that you just happen to also be putting forth in an argument.

I'm merely calling you on it here, and telling you to put up, or shut up.

Demonstrate that a majority of scholars hold this position. We'll wait.


The problem here is not with me, as much as you would like to believe. You got yourself into this position all by yourself.

The problem is the kind of sweeping appeal to authority that you made. And I have seen you do it on other threads, with turtonm, with rodahi, and other posters. Appeals to authority hold no water around here.

So either put forth the relevant argument itself, or give it up.



You mean like when you were insisting in a precise match between strange historical events (which turtonm provided examples for), and your Paul scenario?

That has to be one of the best examples I have seen of quibbling around here in a long time. In case you don't know what "quibble" means:



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I am truly flattered by your attention Omnedon. Truly.

But since you have demonstrated that you will lie to me and about me, why should I continue to dialouge with you?

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So why couldn't he say the seven last words within the fist few minutes of being up there? Since that was the last thing he said, it got conflated to the moments before death in the telling.

Hello People

What is the motive of those wishing to place stumbling blocks in the way of believers?

Is it qualitatively different to the desire of all believers to acquaint themselves with the truth?

Blessings and Peace

Hilarius

Don't be. Posting to you beats finishing some technical spec work - but not by much.



1. Ah, how quickly you inflate your assertions and transform them into facts. You're an amusing one. However, no such lying by me was ever demonstrated. True, you did engage in slander to that effect, but your slander is not proof. Not around here, anyhow.

2. All I have demonstrated is that you are a hypocrite. And, that when challenged to either put up or shut up, you withdraw into a pouty, whiny little deLayman. Like you're doing now - when it is conclusively shown that you overreached yourself on your claim. Instead of retracting or re-wording the claim, you shift the topic. Oops; we noticed.


Huh?

Pointing out your logical fallacies and double standards doesn't require any response from you at all, deLayman. Do whatever you like.



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Sorry Om, I know its hard for you to accept. But the breakup is official. You have demonstrated that you will lie to me and about me:
http://www.infidels.org/electronic/f...ML/000393.html

So. You are simply not worth it.

Um, again: challenging your fallacies and pointing out your double standards requires no interaction from you at all.



You did lie. You claimed I offered no sources. But I did.

1. You lied.
2. You were caught.
3. Deal with it.

Your lies about me and your sources have been conclusively demonstrated:
http://www.infidels.org/electronic/f...ML/000393.html

You misspelled "frequently alleged".


That link merely shows where you claimed I gave no sources. You were wrong.

As I said:
1. You lied.
2. You got caught.
3. Deal with it.

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