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irenaeus · 07-22-2001, 08:41 PM

infidel: perhaps the words which follow the term 'large animal' in Job 40 and Job 41 might be used to help narrow down the possibilities.

Fo example, the 'large animal' in Job 40 'eats grass like an ox', has 'strength in his loins' and 'power in the muscles of his belly'. He 'bends his tail like a cedar', etc...

What 'large animal' fits this description? I say the huge Brachiosaurus. Or perhaps Apatosaurus? What do you think? Could this be a description of anything else than a dinosaur? Perhaps. But dismissing the very possibility that Job 40-41 speaks of the 'first of the ways of God', his most physically magnificent creatures- dinosaurs, is not what I call 'free thinking', of which we all aspire.

Kosh · 07-23-2001, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by irenaeus:
infidel: perhaps the words which follow the term 'large animal' in Job 40 and Job 41 might be used to help narrow down the possibilities.

You would think... that if Dino's lived
as recently as 4000 years ago... that we'd
have found Dino bones that weren't fossilized..... ie, turned to stone.

sentinel00 · 07-23-2001, 09:53 AM

Using Chriton's musings as an example, how did the jews fend off the meat eating dinosaurs?

Kosh · 07-23-2001, 09:56 AM

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Using Chriton's musings as an example, how did the jews fend off the meat eating dinosaurs?

Hey, do you think that T-Rex was
considered Kosher?

Jesse · 07-23-2001, 12:40 PM

irenaeus:
perhaps the words which follow the term 'large animal' in Job 40 and Job 41 might be used to help narrow down the possibilities.

Fo example, the 'large animal' in Job 40 'eats grass like an ox', has 'strength in his loins' and 'power in the muscles of his belly'. He 'bends his tail like a cedar', etc...

What 'large animal' fits this description? I say the huge Brachiosaurus. Or perhaps Apatosaurus? What do you think? Could this be a description of anything else than a dinosaur? Perhaps. But dismissing the very possibility that Job 40-41 speaks of the 'first of the ways of God', his most physically magnificent creatures- dinosaurs, is not what I call 'free thinking', of which we all aspire.

From Tower of Babel: The Evidence Against The New Creationism:

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Dinosaurs, they claim, are mentioned in the Bible as the Behemoth and the Leviathan. Institute for Creation Research (ICR) scientists say that the former was probably a dinosaur because of its Scriptural description. They give away posters of a seated man observing what appears to be an Apatosaurus with the scriptural passage from Job: "Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together" (40:15-17). At the Museum of Creation and Earth History, our guide drew the children's attention to the phrase "he moveth his tail like a cedar," noting that no animal we know of besides dinosaurs had a tail so large. Scholars of biblical Hebrew would have to stifle a chuckle if they heard this exegesis, for the King James translation utilizes the term "tail" as a common euphemism for the male genital member. Stephen Mitchell's authoritative translation of the book of Job removes the linguistic fig-leaf and renders the passage somewhat differently: "Look now: the Beast that I made: he eats grass like a bull. Look: the power in his thighs, the pulsing sinews of his belly. His penis stiffens like a pine; his testicles bulge with vigor."

Since neither reptiles nor birds have external genitals, dinosaurs almost certainly didn't either.

[ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: Jesse ]

Mac · 07-28-2001, 11:48 AM

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Newsflash II: Job coexisted, 4000 years ago, with dinosaurs and was mocked by God for his weakness before them:

Aaaack!!! He's right! Here's the proof!!!!

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: Mac ]

jre · 07-30-2001, 08:34 PM

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Aaaack!!! He's right! Here's the proof!!!!

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: Mac ]

Conclusive photographic proof! I REPENT!

jre · 07-30-2001, 08:39 PM

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Stephen Mitchell's authoritative translation of the book of Job removes the linguistic fig-leaf and renders the passage somewhat differently: "Look now: the Beast that I made: he eats grass like a bull. Look: the power in his thighs, the pulsing sinews of his belly. His penis stiffens like a pine; his testicles bulge with vigor."

FUNNY RESPONSE #1
I know a guy like this.

FUNNY RESPONSE #2
Could this be interpreted as yet another messianic prophecy Jesus failed to meet?

(choose whichever one you like the best)

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07-22-2001, 08:41 PM	#21
irenaeus Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 147	infidel: perhaps the words which follow the term 'large animal' in Job 40 and Job 41 might be used to help narrow down the possibilities. Fo example, the 'large animal' in Job 40 'eats grass like an ox', has 'strength in his loins' and 'power in the muscles of his belly'. He 'bends his tail like a cedar', etc... What 'large animal' fits this description? I say the huge Brachiosaurus. Or perhaps Apatosaurus? What do you think? Could this be a description of anything else than a dinosaur? Perhaps. But dismissing the very possibility that Job 40-41 speaks of the 'first of the ways of God', his most physically magnificent creatures- dinosaurs, is not what I call 'free thinking', of which we all aspire.

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sentinel00 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Mayor of Terminus Posts: 7,616	Using Chriton's musings as an example, how did the jews fend off the meat eating dinosaurs?

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