Oh by the way, NO!!! i don't think they were anything more than fictional characters, that was my whole point, i wanted a CHRISTIAN to explain it to me.

-ISHI TIBB

Ishi, every generation more and more people inhabit the Earth. That is a fact.
If you run that in reverse, long enough, you will end up with 2 people or less. Those two real people would most likely have a name.
What's wrong with the names Cain and Able?

Lance, I'm pretty sure you meant Eve.

well, it seems to me the story of cain and abel would have more validity to it if they were symbolic of something, perhaps two neighboring nations, at war with each other.
the bible would probably have good info if everyone stopped being rediculous and looked at if from a symbolic point of view, not a literal point of view. What's wrong with opening your mind?

-ISHI TIBB

No, I said 12 year rule, not 14. No, if you want to say that Josephus wrote the gospels, no, he did not. Cleopatra died in 31 b.c.e. and Jesus died in about A.D. 70. They have no connectivity. It is interesting though, that if Cleopatra would have become Mrs. Caesar she would have been "Queen of the world" and Christianity would never have happened.

thanks, offa