What do you think a non sequitir is?

I didn't say you said it. Did I?

So far you haven't been able to show that Nomad said we had more evidence for Ceasar's life than we did for Jesus. You've admitted I didn't say it. You then brought up Josh McDowell and claimed he said something of the sort.

So. If neither Nomad or myself raised the issue? Or relied on J. McDowell, why did YOU bring him up?

And just what did J. McDowell say that has you so upset anyway?

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This pissing contest seems a lot like the Engergizer Bunny. It just keeps going and going and going....

I suppose those involved in it are probably concerned with it, but I hope the participants don't assume those who are primarily observing really give a rats ass.

People make mistakes, people misconstrue arguments, people misunderstand arguments, arguments are worded poorly causing people to misunderstand and/or misconstrue them. This is not big news, it does not make a person "bad" or "stupid" whether they are theist or non-theist. Get over it. Its just not worth all this back and forth mud slinging.

Good points.

I'm ready to admit that all that has happened is misreading, confusion, misunderstanding, and poorly worded statements.



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So I guess we get to start here with this red herring Dennis. YOU created this thread, so now you get to defend it. Personally, if I were you, I would ask the moderators to delete the entire thing, because we are going to go through your historical ignorance step by step from this point forward.

Now I am left to wonder if you read your own posts Dennis. Let's see what you wrote:

This was my quote that presumably got you so hot and bothered, and it was raised within the context of a discussion about the historicity of Jesus being buried in a tomb.

Now, let's keep going:

I agree that it was not that extraordinary of an event, but then neither is the burial of Jesus. THAT is why I drew the parralel. I want to see how good the supporting evidence is for Julius' assassination and compare it to the amount of evidence that we have that Jesus was buried in a tomb.

So, stay focused, because this is what we are going to talk about. I hope you will provide some evidence.

No, this is not the point. We are talking about history is studied, and how evidence is gathered and evaluated in the study of specific historical events. We have two on the table:

1) Jesus buried in a tomb
2) Julius Caesar assassinated

Let's compare them and see how well we do.

Actually, we are going to get into this in greater depth as well Dennis. I hope you have done some reading.

I asked specificially for primary documentation of the assassination of Julius Caesar. I have done this on two separate threads now. You have foolishly picked up this gauntlet, and now I want to see what you can produce.

So your answer here is you don't have anything thus far. Fine. Have you managed to dig anything up since this last post?

I have a lot of patience Dennis, and if you are prepared to tough it out, I hope, through the course of this and a couple of other threads to help teach you in this matter. I hope you will learn something by it.

Right now here is the test, come up with some primary sources on the assassination of Julius Caesar, and we will compare it to the event of Jesus being buried in a tomb. At the end of the day we can then determine who has the most evidence.

I look forward to your (this time hopefully actual) reply.

Nomad