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Old 05-16-2013, 06:48 PM   #31
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They did not wander for 40 years, they camped out at Kadesh Barnea for decades.


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You mean they fictionally camped out for decades?
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:39 PM   #32
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[Fundy] Didn't need to shovel it. God made it all disappear. If it was God's will that the Children of Israel leave no sign of their passage or presence in the desert, He would allow no evidences to remain.

God wants you to believe HIS WORDS by FAITH in His words ...in spite of any physical evidence to the contrary.
Believe and trust His WORDS and not your own eyes.

If it is material evidences you require, it is not FAITH in His words that you are walking by.
He removed all these evidences so that FAITH might prevail;

"Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper."

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I know. I've been there.
I suggest you start a separate thread on fundie jokes...
Just saying, when God's got a bag full of magic tricks and 'miracles', anything is possible.
With belief of God's words, all logic, reason, and mathematical proofs fly right out the window.
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Yea, the logistics are problematic. In a similar vein I've always wondered how Noah and his small crew kept up with shoveling all the manure.

Even 1000 people for 40 years is problematic. Improbable there would not have been any record of contact somewhere.

A wandering band of outcasts led by an eccentric charismatic leader who thought he talked with god.
They did not wander for 40 years, they camped out at Kadesh Barnea for decades.

Hmm. Wonder how much space at Kadesh Barnea, a camp of 2 million Israelites plus their livestock would take up?
Anyone run the math on that one?
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Well, Shesh. I recently saw a commentary that said that from end to end the camp was about 52 miles wide.

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They did not wander for 40 years, they camped out at Kadesh Barnea for decades.

Hmm. Wonder how much space at Kadesh Barnea, a camp of 2 million Israelites plus their livestock would take up?
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:56 PM   #35
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52.5 miles would be perfect. But if one is 26 miles away from Kadesh Barnea are they still at Kadesh Barnea?
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I suggest you start a separate thread on fundie jokes...
Just saying, when God's got a bag full of magic tricks and 'miracles', anything is possible.
With belief of God's words, all logic, reason, and mathematical proofs fly right out the window.
Which, ironically, may lead to sort of "limited omnipotence" that seems to
be getting some play here of late.
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I guess the location name was wherever Moses and Aaron were.
I thought you were going to ask how so many people fit into Jerusalem and the Temple area during the years of Solomon's reign for the festivals, or for that matter during the festivals at the sanctuaries of Shiloh, Nov and Givon [Nob and Gibeon].......

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52.5 miles would be perfect. But if one is 26 miles away from Kadesh Barnea are they still at Kadesh Barnea?
Plus where did they go to take a dump?

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Deut 23:12-You shall have a place also outside of the camp, where you shall go forth abroad:13and you shall have a paddle among your weapons; and it shall be, when you sit down abroad, you shall dig therewith, and shall turn back and cover that which comes from you:
I guess you could be encamped at Kadesh Barnea and take a dump at Etzion- Geber.
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Man. Moses, Aaron, and the Priests at Kadesh Barnea had to take a 52 mile round trip hike to get outside of the camp every time they needed to take a dump? Must have made it tough getting God's daily barbecue prepared.
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Odd that what would have been the world's most populous city left no artifacts to indicate it ever existed.
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