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“not the slightest evidence that either of the verbs involved has ever been used in relation to sexual activity or even more broadly in connection with the conception of a child” [Nolland, Luke 1-9:20, 54)
But Herodotus tells the story of the Spartan king who need a baby: the wife who had come in afterwards bore this Cleomenes of whom we spoke. χρόνου δὲ οὐ πολλοῦ διελθόντος ἡ ἐσύστερον ἐπελθοῦσα γυνὴ τίκτει τὸν δὴ Κλεομένεα τοῦτον. [Hdt. 5.41] |
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Here is an example where a wife comes in and it is not sexual in nature:
ὁ γοῦν Πιττακὸς ἐκεῖνος, οὗ μέγα μὲν ἀνδρείας μέγα δὲ σοφίας καὶ δικαιοσύνης κλέος, εἱστία ξένους: ἐπελθοῦσα δ᾽ ἡ γυνὴ μετ᾽ ὀργῆς ἀνέτρεψε τὴν τράπεζαν When the renowned Pittacus, who got him so great a name for his fortitude, wisdom, and justice, was entertaining his friends at a noble banquet, and his spouse in an angry humor came and overturned the table; his guests being extremely disturbed at it [Plut. De Tranq. 11] |
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I have another example.
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The temporal phrase (χρόνου δὲ οὐ πολλοῦ διελθόντος ἡ ἐσύστερον ~ "not much time passing hereafter") seems to qualify the participle (ἐπελθοῦσα ~ "having come forward"... after the first wife's inability), which in turn qualifies the (new) wife, who is able to and did produce the desired child. I don't see that ἐπελθοῦσα carries in itself any sexual activity. It seems to be related to number two's coming along. You could suggest that there is a sexual implication in the statement (something had to happen to get the result), but I'm not seeing that it is derived from the participle itself. |
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Yes she's the 'come in afterwards wife' and the 'come in afterwards woman' as we see in what follows:
ἔχουσαν δὲ αὐτὴν ἀληθεῖ λόγῳ οἱ τῆς ἐπελθούσης γυναικὸς οἰκήιοι πυθόμενοι ὤχλεον |
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Looking at all the shades of meaning I wonder if ἐπέρχομαι was ever used in the sense of 'rape'
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The Moody Handbook of Theology (or via: amazon.co.uk) By Paul P Enns
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Do not some more general questions need to be asked first? For example, what were the beliefs about where babies come from and what were the possibilities?
For example a google search found a statement that Aristotle believed wind direction determines the sex of a baby. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=d...%20boy&f=false As the Holy Spirit and wind are I believe related (rauch).... are we looking at a belief in a special holy wind? |
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