maryhelena

And what 'destruction' would that be?

stephan huller

The reading or allusion to Isa 61.2 in Luke only makes sense if the year was a Jubilee. So too the name "gospel" for the narrative of the ministry of Jesus that year

stephan huller

The temple

stephan huller

There are rabbinic reports connecting the destruction to the sabbatical cycle

maryhelena

OK - the wording made it look like you were counting those years up to 20/21 ce.....not from that dating....

maryhelena

Stephan, there is no reference there, that I can see, that supports your statement re: "Archelaus dying c 18 CE but that again is from Josephus."

Where is the Josephan reference for this statement?

stephan huller

Where else does everyone get this date? I am on vacation but the date is pretty consistent. It would be more useful to ignore the date but I'm trying to be transparent

maryhelena

I'm curious - your using a date for your argument re Archelaus - and you have stated that it is a Josephan date - so, cite the reference...

stephan huller

I just finished saying (a) I am vacation (b) I am happy to look at any date from any source. I just keep seeing 18 CE on the internet

stephan huller

Apparently there is some supporting scholarship for this theory. From Bond's book on Pilate:

The suggestion of D. R. Schwartz*(following Eisler, Messiah, pp. 13-20) that Pilate actually took up his post in 19 CE is unconvincing.*He maintains that all the references in Josephus' Antiquities given above which point to a date of 26 are Christian forgeries*designed to refute the Acta Pilati*circulated during the principate of Maximin Daia in 311. In this work Jesus' execution occurred in 21 CE;*if Josephus' records*could be tampered with*to show that Pilate had only appeared in the province in 26 CE then thework could*be proved to be a hoax. (p. 1)

Danny Schwartz's argument is here http://books.google.com/books?id=rd5...ed=0CCsQ6AEwAQ and it is based on a "jump" in the chronology in Josephus from 19 CE to 37 CE