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Old 06-12-2013, 09:47 PM   #21
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Where did I say that it says he was the HIGH priest? He was a kohen, a member of the priesthood. Nothing to do with the high priest.
Precisely the point. There is no list of all the Jewish members of the Priesthood and it is not expected that any writings would have named Josephus or every member of the priesthood.

Please, name all the members of the priesthood in the 1st century.
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The issue is not hisstatus as a priest but as a general and writer.
There is nothing about this person in any ancient Jewish text. Nor were his writings in thepossession of Jews.

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Where did I say that it says he was the HIGH priest? He was a kohen, a member of the priesthood. Nothing to do with the high priest.
Precisely the point. There is no list of all the Jewish members of the Priesthood and it is not expected that any writings would have named Josephus or every member of the priesthood.

Please, name all the members of the priesthood in the 1st century.
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:06 AM   #23
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The issue is not hisstatus as a priest but as a general and writer.
There is nothing about this person in any ancient Jewish text. Nor were his writings in thepossession of Jews.
There is no expectation that Jewish Text would write about Josephus as a priest.

Again, please name all the members of the priesthood from c 39-100 CE or during the supposed time of Josephus?
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:09 AM   #24
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The OP asked a specific question about a text. This text does not depend on any characteristic of Josephus - whether he existed, or his worked were forged by Christians, or whether he was a priest. etc.

Please stick to the topic.
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as didn't understand my point.
However, I do recall a thread where someone showed examples of similarities between content in Josephus and the gospels.It was a year or more ago.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Steve Mason (or via: amazon.co.uk) argues that the author of Luke and Acts knew and used Josephus' writings. This could be relevant, but dunno if he has anything about Jesus son of Ananias and Matthew.
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I think I had in mind this link that was from a different website.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html
I googled Josephus and gospels and found many links, mostly in relation to Luke and to Acts.

In any event, the lack of corroborative evidence for a narrator called Joseph isn't much different than that for Dr. Watson who narrated stories about Sherlock Holmes.

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However, I do recall a thread where someone showed examples of similarities between content in Josephus and the gospels.It was a year or more ago.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Steve Mason (or via: amazon.co.uk) argues that the author of Luke and Acts knew and used Josephus' writings. This could be relevant, but dunno if he has anything about Jesus son of Ananias and Matthew.
Mason does not make that argument.

You could try to argue that Josephus' story is a reflection or parody of the gospel Passion story, but there are no indications that Josephus knew of the gospels.
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Steve Mason (or via: amazon.co.uk) argues that the author of Luke and Acts knew and used Josephus' writings. This could be relevant, but dunno if he has anything about Jesus son of Ananias and Matthew.
Mason does not make that argument.

You could try to argue that Josephus' story is a reflection or parody of the gospel Passion story, but there are no indications that Josephus knew of the gospels.
with Josephus most known as a historian, one would think he would portray the gospels and their central character - Jesus Christ of Nazareth/Bethlehem - more accurately.

Moreover, it is likely, given we know the dates for Josephus's writings better than we know the dates for the gospels, that Joesphus's writings were before the gospels were written or finalised.
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The OP asked a specific question about a text. This text does not depend on any characteristic of Josephus - whether he existed, or his worked were forged by Christians, or whether he was a priest. etc.

Please stick to the topic.
Though, whether Josephus existed or whether his works were forged by Christians is relevant to the relationship of his works to Christian works.
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