ph2ter

And you pretend to be some referent authority on issues such as this?

(Referent authority: refers to the ability to influence others through charisma, personality, and charm.)

Who cares what you think.

aa5874

Please, you present propaganda. I have not ever claimed to be an authority. I merely repeat what is found written in writings attributed to ancient writers.

It is completely and hopelessly flawed that the Pauline writers started the Jesus cult.

Every element, every factor and every condition to place the Pauline writer BEFORE Jesus is missing.

1. The Pauline writer implied Jesus was ALREADY dead before he started to preach.

2. The Pauline writer ADMITTED he Persecuted the Churches of Christ BEFORE he Preached the Faith.

3. The Pauline writer ADMITTED he was LAST to have Visions after OVER 500 persons including AFTER Cephas, the Twelve, the Apostles and James.

4. The Pauline writer ADMITTED that there were already Scriptures that Jesus died for our sins, was buried and raised the third day.

5. The Pauline writer claimed he had received information about the night Jesus was delivered up.

The Pauline writer was DEAD LAST in the Canon and is the most unlikely candidate to start the Jesus cult.

jgreen44

Correct. Paul states cryptically that Jesus was "revealed in" Paul.

If a flesh and blood Jesus was revealed in Paul, Paul's Jesus is either a chimera or Paul's gay lover.

aa5874

In the Pauline Corpus, it is claimed Jesus Christ was ALREADY dead. The Pauline Corpus is about Jesus AFTER his supposed death which lasted for THREE days.

1. If Jesus did actually exist then the Pauline Corpus is NOT credible. Jesus could NOT have been raised from the dead AFTER he was dead for THREE DAYS.

2. If Jesus did exist and was the Christ then we would expect that Jesus the Christ would have started the Jesus cult of Christians --NOT Paul.

3. If Jesus did NOT start the Jesus cult then it could NOT have been Paul because he claimed he PERSECUTED the Churches of Christ.

4. If people did have Visions of Jesus Paul was the LAST after over 500 persons including Cephas, the Twelve, the Apostles and James.

Examine the Pauline Corpus--the Pauline writers admitted that their Jesus was ALREADY dead.

1. Romans 10:9 KJV-----That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved

2. 1 Corinthians 15:15 KJV----Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up , if so be that the dead rise not.

3. Galatians 1:1 KJV---Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead.

4. Ephesians 1--- he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places.

5. Colossians 2:12 KJV----Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

6. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 KJV-----And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

7. Philippians 3:10 KJV ------That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death.

The Pauline writers' Jesus, the Son of God, was already dead when the Pauline Corpus were composed.

jgreen44

Indeed. I have been looking into this. Statistically, it is more likely you live in Broward County.

Chili

Nothing has changed, we still look with our eyes and see with our mind. The question becomes: "Who's flesh" if Christ was born and they called him Jesus, and so now "who is who" here that he should be called Jesus?

Could this be Joseph maybe hauling ass back to Eden again? and so now Paul saw the same and 'finished the race" on his own and after that saw to it that he got crucified himself.

Notice that this thing he called 'race' is not that difficult if he could do it all by himself while Mark's Jesus did not even know that there was one to run! and instead hauled ass to get back to Gallilee again! . . . and obviously does not know that heaven on earth is the alternative here.

aa5874

You have statistics for everything you imagine?? Where did you get your stats from?

It is most remarkable that you ignore the stats in the Pauline Corpus that Paul's Jesus was ALREADY DEAD when the Pauline Epistles were composed and invent stats for Broward County.

If you can invent stats for Broward County what else did you openly invent?

jgreen44

I'm not imagining anything. Some time ago you expressed great offense at the notion that the ancient Jews engaged in human sacrifice. An atheist would not give a shit. And I know you are not a Christian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...wish_Americans

Florida has the third largest Jewish population in the country. And Broward County has the largest concentration of Jews in Florida, followed by Palm Beach and Dade counties.

If we are to believe your profile, you are located on "the fringe of the Caribbean".

Bada-boom-bada-bing.

Odds are you are a Jew living in Broward County.

It's called deductive reasoning.

BTW, we are practically neighbors. I live in Naples.

Hmmm. Maybe we are neighbors? There are 8,000 Jews in Collier County,

outhouse

Not really bud.

Paul uses a Koine Greek word that amounts to "a feeling from within"

Nothing cryptic this time.

jgreen44

So Paul was describing indigestion.