Tristan Scott

For those interested in an exegetical analysis of the Flood story here is a pretty one. It covers the entire Pentateuch but the Flood story is covered in the first chapter.

outhouse

Good reading, ill go back and refresh, ive read some of Ska before


Here is a 100 year old scholarship that has stood the test of time

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/log/log06.htm


Not as much as the flood, but how the first 5 books were collected and out together.


Oh wait I have not read anything, according to toto, so maybe we can just state I slept in a holiday inn last night, and viewed this on cable

seyorni

OK
Peruse: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

outhouse

This whole argument is that of YEC

There is no debate here, just us trying educate someone with a closed mind due to theology.


Ziusudra mythology started all the flood myths in the Levant from a real flood of the Euphrates attested to 2900 BC.

This is the exact place Noahs legend is said to originate, and thankfully to Sumerians ability to have a advanced writing system that left thousands of years of records, we have King Ziusudra, on the known Kings list.


So we have a good possibility for a real man in the first mythology to be a real character.

We have a devastating flood that wiped out early agrarian villages set up too close to a major river for thousand year floods that is attested.




But no! lets follow obvious mythology with ZERO historical core from a religion known for using all other cultures legends because it had none of its own! Their deities are not even their own.

Chili

Nono, all of the animals, even the wolves:

If he had known,
unstrucrtured spac is a deluige
and stocked his life-houseboat
with all of the animals
. . . even the wolves,
He might have floated.

But obstinate he stated:
the land is solid,
. . . and stamped!
Watching his foot sink
down through stone,
up to the knee.

Life-houseboat was a popular imagery back then to identify your world as yours and my world as mine to point at the difference only that makes it a personal event, yes indeed as it was for Noah as well, and here his 'life-houseboat' contained all he was and all he ever did.

This is very normal and also very good to spin the complicated web that we weave as if it was like a labyrint all of our own wherein we finally get lost and the inner cry for help is real (with not even one pig left behind), will be answered from upon high, which is no further away that our own TOL (from also where angels are send).

So the secret is not in how many, but in "the all" that Allen Watt's called "beyond theology" on account of that.

Duvduv

If it helps any, Jewish tradition explains that the water came from the heavens and rose from the depths of the earth. In fact, the rain is described not as coming from clouds in the sky but from the shattering of the "RAKIA" "the Firmament") described in Genesis 1:6-8.

Chili

Sure, and water was set aside to gather in pools as knowledge retained that so would give us dry land to walk and gather some more as outsider to 'it', with it being knowledge retained where woman is in charge of the TOL, while we, as human, are outsider to it in the TOK as chest-beating hero in charge all on our own. . . and I can just see a flood coming his way.

outhouse

Its doesn't help outside fantasy

Duvduv

So you have become the arbiter of what constitutes truth and fantasy? It must have been you, Outhouse, who ascended Mt. Sinai and therefore you are the arbiter of truth and fantasy. Some secularists are quite bigoted.

outhouse

Its not bigoted at all, your religion is my favorite, and im only a anti theist to muslims if truth be told.

But facts are fact.

Moses has no historicity, since it is factual that displaced Canaanites evolved into proto Israelites after 1200 BC.

Your religion factually used previous mythology in the Levant to craft its own theology and religion based on that of the Canaanites, and then influenced and redacted heavily after the Babylonian Exile.


So forgive me that im am the light of truth blinding your mythology.