J-D

Obviously in the most general possible sense of the word 'evidence', the Christian Scriptures are evidence, but all that means is that they are part of what has to be explained, not that they have to be part of the explanation. The existence of the Christian Scriptures is evidence that they were compiled by some person, or some several people, but that evidence alone isn't enough to establish who did the compiling or why, still less is it enough by itself to establish the veridicality of the texts.

aa5874

The stories of Jesus in the Canon are near, if not exceeds or equal, 100% fiction or implausible.

Please, do not forget that it is documented and was circulated in the Roman Empire by the very Jesus cult that Jesus was born AFTER his mother was found Pregnant by a Ghost. See Matthew 1 and Luke 1.

The conception of Jesus as stated in the Canon is virtually 100% fiction or implausible so the rest of the Jesus story must be extremely close or exceeds that same percentage.

Even in the later gJohn, it is 100% fiction or implausible that Jesus was the Logos and God the Creator.

Effectively, the Jesus character, is without any reasonable doubt, pure unadulterated mythology fabricated in the 2nd century by those who accepted Mythology as history.

Please, remember it was a UNIVERSAL creed in the Jesus cult that Jesus was a God, a resurrected messianic ruler, and also a Ghost.

See Church History composed by a Jesus cult writer.

Jesus was THREE in ONE---THREE MYTHS IN ONE.

Essentially, the Jesus story is at least 300% mythology.

MrMacSon

err, No. It is up to a suitable argument to infer or deduce the veracity of the evidence. appeal to authority does not wash.

which it is it? otherwise, that sentence is mere weasel words.

MrMacSon

"it"? the New Testament?

If the NT is not all fiction, then it is likely >95% is. Which 5% is not fiction??

Jaybees

So? Even avowed fiction isn't usually 100% fiction. The range of fiction in fictional novels is enormous--running from Star Trek to the Da Vinci Code.

I'd rank the gospels somewhere close to the Iliad when it comes to fictional content.

aa5874

Avowed fiction is 100% fiction or greater.

I have in front of me a book which the author ADMITS is a work of fiction.

This is the disclaimer found in this work of FICTION.

"This novel is a work of fiction. Names and characters are the products of the author's imagination and any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental"

This disclaimer must be inserted as soon as practicable possible.

The NT is known avowed Fiction for at least 1800 years. Celsus in "True Discourse" exposed the monstrous fables called Gospels.

The NT is a work of fiction--names and characters are products of the authors' imagination and any resemblance to actual persons, living, dead or resurrected, is purely coincidental.

outhouse

Claiming the text is evidence has nothing to do with appealing to your ignorance, or appeal to authorities.

outhouse

Agreed.

outhouse

How do you come up with 95% when you have no real knowledge of historical methods, and discount most all scholars who have 95% more education then you on this very topic?

aa5874

Please, even scholars with education only speculate about two events--the baptism and crucifixion.

Do the math!!

If there are over 40 events in the NT about Jesus and only TWO may be historical then 95% fiction is reasonable.