outhouse

There are parallels, no one really argues this.


We will just never know if they used a similar source, or if the author did copy Josephus, or not.

Toto

Find 4 non-evangelical scholars who have rejected Mason's arguments.

Toto

The words that you quote are not Pervo's, but those of the reviewer, Dr Don Garlington, an active Christian minister.

MrMacSon

and Pervo throws down a challenge in Dating Acts in his conclusion

mountainman

Good catch. Thanks.

MrMacSon

Ha, that's why I couldn't make sense of a quick look through his review

Toto

It is a very jumbled review by a Christian who is familiar with the technical issues Pervo discusses, but who seems to balk at the conclusion. You don't see this clearly until the last 2 paragraphs:

". . . Additionally, scholars of a conservative stripe will question Pervo’s postulations pertaining to the dating of Acts to circa 115 . . .

.Notwithstanding these several reservations Pervo’s tendencies do not preclude the reader from deriving numerous insights from the commentary . . "

James The Least

On what grounds do you reject the date of c.120 by leading Acts scholar Richard Pervo?

James The Least

Lena Einhorn's SBL paper from last year, "Jesus and the 'Egyptian Prophet'," shows extensive reliance by Acts on the works of Josephus. The key is to recognize a "time shift" by Luke: events he dated in the 30s and 40s are described by Josephus as happening in the 50s. It appears Luke was trying to shoe-horn the origins of the church (which he had no info about) into the earlier period since the supposed death date of Jesus had already been established as the 30s.

PDF here

"If we were to move the accounts from the Gospels (and some from Acts) fifteen to twenty years forward in time, and change the names of people in authority accordingly, (the) number of matches would increase significantly (fifteen are presented in this study, including some internal NT inconsistencies which would be resolved), and although the matches are separate, not inter-dependent, they form a pattern with regard to the subject matter. In addition, a person with significant similarities to Jesus would appear in both De bello Judaico and in Antiquitates Judaicae. This person, however, was not, as far as is known, tried or crucified."

outhouse

Do scholars date Gluke and GActs at the same date? or do they date GActs later?