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Old 04-03-2013, 09:16 PM   #21
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Broadie's thesis about the relationship between Marqe and Philo (his professor was MacDonald the English translator of the Mimar) http://theses.gla.ac.uk/1589/1/1975broadiephd.pdf
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Enough resources on the mystical link between Judaism and Eastern Christianity to make anyone go crazy (Orlov) http://www.marquette.edu/maqom/
http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home..._1970_num_47_3 (just go through these French articles - without limit)
Fitzmyer http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2404406...%20OF%20NT.pdf
Alawite Resource page http://www.alawites.org/ (incredible books)
Samaritana http://www.houseofdavid.ca/cowley.htm
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Samaritan Update (free bimonthly newsletter) http://shomron0.tripod.com/2013/janfeb.pdf
New Translation of the Defter Hymns (oldest in the liturgy) http://etheses.whiterose.ac.uk/2196/...hos_543892.pdf

It is fascinating to see how the Samaritan evening Sabbath prayer begins (at the end of the sixth day). The passing of six into seven and then the seven into the eight (= goings out of the Sabbath) are so mystically interpreted pregnant in their significance.

Man was made on the sixth but notice as the seventh (one better) approaches the priests declare:

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We cleanse our desires and sanctify our spirits. We praise, magnify and exalt our God, God of gods and Lord of lords; the great, mighty and reverend God. We say with voices uplifted: "For I shall proclaim the name of Yahwe and ascribe ye greatness unto our God." (Deut 32:3)
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"The Rock (tsur), his work (po'olo = Samaritan pronunciation) is perfect for all his ways are justice, a God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and right is he. (Deut 32:4)"
But if you think of this prayer for a moment. The Samaritan religion has been reformed since the times of Simon Magus. It is a strict monotheistic religion. But the prayer probably dates to that period. Marqe himself one of the largest contributors to the Defter makes clear in his writings that the Samaritans saw tsur not as meaning rock but 'form' or 'image' (Aramaic). Thus what is being celebrated is the 'form' or 'image' of God who reflects or refracts the unknowable, 'unseeable' God. This is called the 'po'olo' (= work) of God. God made this form or image. When? Presumably at Creation. This po'olo is also 'perfect' (or perhaps better 'unblemished' = tamym).

So who or what is God's perfect work? Well the Christian answer is 'Christ' nowadays. But I can't help read the prologue in John and see that it would have been the figure called 'Paul' (= Παῦλος). Why? Well for the heretics Jesus was a supernatural being who comes down to earth and - in the words of John:

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The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. [John 1:14]
But who is the one who was made flesh? Jesus? In a sense, yes. But this idea of the spirit 'tabernacling' among people - it must have originally been associated with a particular historical individual. For the Samaritan Christians that individual was Simon. But in the Clementines that Simon sounds an awful lot like Paul. The Pauline heretics (Marcion, Valentinus) are accused of really being disciples of Simon rather than Paul. Maybe when the supernatural Jesus tabernacled in Simon, Simon was called 'the perfect work' of God because he was taken to be the form or image of God, living and breathing among men in the flesh. Just a thought.
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Interesting.

This is, apparently, Interlinear Scripture Analyzer, ISA basic 2.1.5 Copyright © 2011 André de Mol. The basic version is available for free download from their website here. I think it only runs on the Windows OS.

They also have online versions for those with Macs or really old IBM architecture PCs:

Online Interlinear (PDF format)
Hebrew Interlinear Bible (last update 14 Jan. 2008)
Greek Interlinear Bible (last update 25 Jan 2010)

Unfortunately, I have not been able to determine whether they have gone beyond this basic version. The Windows program does not allow you to copy & paste. The online PDFs can be copied and pasted, somewhat.

The format used by interlinearbible.org seems to be identical to the ISA format, which ISA says is their invention. However, no copyright info refering back to ISA is provided on the above web site. I will note that the interlinearbible.org options take things much farther than ISA does, so they could have bought rights to use and modify the ISA source code.

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For Migne's Greek Fathers: http://khazarzar.skeptik.net/pgm/PG_Migne/ (and yes this link does work when clicked here)

For Migne's Latin Fathers: http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.e...atus,_MLT.html

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Have you checked that last URL lately? I get an indication it can't be found.
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I think it only runs on the Windows OS.
Hi David,
yes, the link at their web site suggests installation on Ubuntu flavour of Linux possible, by means of the translator program, "WINE", which enables execution of many microsoft products by means of emulation code.

Though spin suppressed my suggestion to add John Hurt's web site, a nifty illustration of "falsification", i.e. fraudulent suppression, I still find Hurt's site superior to your link to this (also excellent) Hebrew Interlinear web site, attention to which is acknowledged, with gratitude. Outstanding as always, David. What I particularly admire about Hurt's site, is the old Hebrew, looking for all the world, at least to one as naive as I am, like the ancient Phoenician script which gave rise to both Hebrew and Greek. That Eastern shoreline has been fertile ground for imagination, for thousands of years!

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For Migne's Greek Fathers: http://khazarzar.skeptik.net/pgm/PG_Migne/ (and yes this link does work when clicked here)

For Migne's Latin Fathers: http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.e...atus,_MLT.html

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Have you checked that last URL lately? I get an indication it can't be found.
I discovered that the links lacked the http protocol marker, making my browser spit at them.
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The books are pretty amazing at that site don't you think?
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