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Old 07-27-2013, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default Any untranslated texts that you would like to see translated from Greek?

As some will know, I commission translations of untranslated ancient texts, which I put online. I could use some more suggestions of interesting texts. Don't worry very much about whether they have already been translated (although do, please, google them first!). But ... what would people like available?
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Good to know. I will try to Google first. Thanks.
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As some will know, I commission translations of untranslated ancient texts, which I put online. I could use some more suggestions of interesting texts. Don't worry very much about whether they have already been translated (although do, please, google them first!). But ... what would people like available?
Sometimes its not that texts are untranslated as not on the net. Augustine's On Free Will and related parts of his Retractions. These texts became core texts that set core dogmas of the Reformation. A number of Augustine's works are not on line. Homilies on Romans, that touch on doctrines of predestination for example.

There are lots of medieval works not on line. Okham's theological works, which were influential, Aquinas's De Malo, On Evil, and many more. Not part of your mission statement, but one wishes the religious churches at al would pick up this task as they have resources and money.

Thank you for all your efforts.

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There are still a few Greek novels I would love to see in translation online. Their significance is in filling out the wider literary world of the gospels.

Chariton: Chaereas and Callirhoe

Xenophon: An Ephesian Tale

Achilles Tatius: Leucippe and Clitophon

Heliodorus: An Ethiopian Story
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What about the Chronicon Paschale or the Sacra Parallela of John of Damascus. Any work by Methodius which you haven't already translated (but that's Slavonic). If you're doing Slavonic the obscure works of Hippolytus.
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The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis

Translations do exist but are expensive and not public domain.






εὐδαιμονία | eudaimonia
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Sometimes its not that texts are untranslated as not on the net. Augustine's On Free Will and related parts of his Retractions. These texts became core texts that set core dogmas of the Reformation. A number of Augustine's works are not on line. Homilies on Romans, that touch on doctrines of predestination for example.
I know. It's frustrating that there *are* translations in existence, of important texts, which are inaccessible. Origen's homilies spring very readily to mind!

But I can't quite see the logic in paying money to translate texts that are already translated into English. And copyright -- and the copyright Nazis grow bolder every year - precludes just uploading the things.

I'm open to any suggestions on how to approach that issue.
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Roger,

What about the Chronicon Paschale or the Sacra Parallela of John of Damascus. Any work by Methodius which you haven't already translated (but that's Slavonic). If you're doing Slavonic the obscure works of Hippolytus.
The Chronicon Paschale exists in translation - I even have a copy of it - in the Liverpool University Press TTH series (Translated Texts for Historians).

The Sacra Parallela is untranslated, and not a text that I know much about. But it's very large, isn't it?

Methodius is a sore point. I did have a go at this, working from the German translation of the Old Slavonic, but the translator was unhappy with churchy language. But the problem is that one really needs someone fluent in both Greek and Slavonic. I don't know any Slavonicists.

Not sure I know about works of Hippolytus in Slavonic? More info would be good.
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There are still a few Greek novels I would love to see in translation online. Their significance is in filling out the wider literary world of the gospels.

Chariton: Chaereas and Callirhoe

Xenophon: An Ephesian Tale

Achilles Tatius: Leucippe and Clitophon

Heliodorus: An Ethiopian Story
Achilles Tatius is online here. Heliodorus is here. Another set including Longus are here.

The first two certainly exist in English, as the BMCR review makes clear here.
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As some will know, I commission translations of untranslated ancient texts, which I put online. I could use some more suggestions of interesting texts. Don't worry very much about whether they have already been translated (although do, please, google them first!). But ... what would people like available?
I'd love to get Augustine's, Opus Imperfectum Contra Julianum, (unfinished work against Julian), translated from Latin. But only to read Augustine, projecting. :devil1:
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