Sheshbazzar

Yep. apparently also inventing, or going along with the old Gospel story that 'Jesus Christ the Lord, was made of the sperma of David according to the flesh'.

David although perhaps mythical, is presented by Scripture to have been entirely human, and leaving progeny and a bloodline after him. David did not ascend into heaven as a spirit, to continue to copulate there (with what?) to produce any 'heavenly 'Jesus'.

In the earliest stories of 'Jesus', The Gospels, 'Jesus' is born to a human mother with a genealogy descended from King David, 'in the flesh'.

'Paul' knows this, and relates it.

Kind of shoots the Theory that 'Paul' only believed in and taught of a heavenly Jesus that had never walked on earth right in the ass.



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aa5874

Once the Pauline Corpus is examined it will be easily found that the Pauline writers are not credible and that the Pauline writings were composed AFTER the Jesus story was known and circulated.

We know EXACTLY what they fabricated and added to the earliest story of Jesus.

In Galatians 1.18-19 a Pauline writer claimed he met an Apostle called James the Lord's brother in Jerusalem.

There is NO SUCH Apostle in the earliest story of Jesus.

Galatians 1 There is NO Apostle called the Lord's brother in ALL FOUR Canonised Gospels.

The Pauline writers are NOT corroborated.

Mark 3 There were two Apostles of Jesus called James.

1. James the son of Zebedee

2. James the son of Alphaeus

We know where the Pauline writer most likely got his story about James the Lord's brother.

He most likely got it from "Antiquities of the Jews" 20.9.1. composed around c 93 CE.

The Pauline writers attempted to historicise a fictitious character James the Lord's brother who was unknown in the Gospels.

Jeffrey Gibson

Do we have any evidence apart from what we find in "apologetic writers" not only that Josephus existed, but that the writings attributed to him are actually from him?

Do we have any non apologetic evidence that corroborates what he tells us about himself in his works?

Is Josephus ever quoted by non Christian writers? If so, by whom? And where? And when? Is he ever mentioned by non Christian writers as the author of The Antiquities of the Jews, The Jewish War, Against Apion, or a work entitled Vita/Life?

Jeffrey

aa5874

So far it has been shown that events in the writings called Epistles to Romans, 1 Corinthians and Galatians are NOT credible and not corroborated by the very Canon of the Jesus cult.

Some Scholars have already deduced that Epistles to Ephesians, Thessalonians, Colossians and Pastorals are forgeries or falsely attributed to Paul.

The abundance of evidence from antiquity do suggest the Pauline Copus is NOT credible.

Sheshbazzar

The writings of Josephus do have their faults. That however does not in the least preclude the very distinct possibility the the 'Pauline' writers did employ material drawn from Josephus' writings in their composition of the 'Pauline epistles'.

Jeffrey Gibson

Credible, let alone "very credible", to whom?

Jeffrey

Duvduv

Especially if all or part of "Josephus" writings were not composed by Jews at all.

Then again, the mysterious Muratorian Canon says that Paul and his epistles were successors of the alleged John and his text called Revelation with its seven churches, yet no where is there any indication at all of how Paul was a successor to this John in Christian theology, aside from the hint that the author(s) of the epistles created recipients in seven communities in addition to epistles written to individuals.

And where does Origen suggest that the epistles or even Acts makes any citation of Paul's alleged gospel (Luke or anything else)?!

Sheshbazzar

Not to nit-pick Jeffery, but my post which you here quote does not anywhere contain the words "very credible".

Jeffrey Gibson

Quite so! Need new glasses. So .. distinct , let alone "very distinct", to whom?

Jeffrey

Sheshbazzar

Apparently to quite a few persons that either don't need new glasses, ...or that are able to see just fine without wearing 'glasses'.

Sheshbazzar