Amos

Good thought hinduwoman but if that is the case it is done more to piss off the protestants as they study the Catholic Church far more than Catholics themselves.

b71

Doe's this make anyone else say in there head, " She only has three miracles, and I believe two of those are card tricks!"

sullster

Hinduwoman,
You are Indian and must feel a type of cultural violation when the dominant religious sect of Western Europe is busy concocting miracles in order to make a saint of someone who clearly wanted to convert Indians to catholicism.

As for your idea of diversion of attention from the molestation scandals as a motivation for this medievalism, I say that is probably a part of the explanation. The other part is the clear attempt to spread catholicism in India. Just you wait, your Hindu dieties will soon have halos and be declared saints. Watch out, they are good at cultural conquest.

Tercel

I've heard it said there are more people alive today than have ever lived in the history of the world. Based on that, the increasing number of Saints being canonized by the RCC would seem quite reasonable.

Yellum Notnef

I don`t think the word "reasonable" has anything at to do with this topic.

Mageth

Originally posted by Tercel:
I've heard it said there are more people alive today than have ever lived in the history of the world.

A bit of an urban myth:

<a href="http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/dead.htm" target="_blank">Snopes response</a>

Based on that, the increasing number of Saints being canonized by the RCC would seem quite reasonable.

One problem with this argument is that living people aren't canonized.

Tercel

Thanks. Okay, I'll correct that to: "about as many people alive today as have died in the last 5000 years"

Of course, but a greatly increasing number of people alive now = a greatly increasing number of people dying in the near past = a greatly increasing number of saintly people dying (assuming a constant ratio between saints and non-saints) = a fair reason to canonize more people.

I'm not a Catholic, and I really don't think anything more than you guys do of their saint-making process or the likely less-than-Christian reasons behind the greatly increased numbers of "saints" some of whom have been fairly dodgy. However you guys are getting a bit carried away with your whining: If it makes the Catholics happy then good for it - why should we care at all?

lunachick

Give it another hundred years or so, and these things, too, will be attributed to her.

Ronin

Do these *miracles* work directly against Godswill (tm)?

If so, are *saints* deities ~ with the supernatural power to counteract Godswill (tm)?

If not, isn't it just God changing His mind again and nothing creditable to the noted human?

thebeave

More likely than not, the pope knows this "miracle" is a fraud. He is purposely perpetuating this lie in an effort to gain followers and recognition for the RCC. Is this the way religion should work? Any means to an end?