NearNihil Experience

Here's what you do...

At every opportunity use his\ her exact same argument against them by replacing God with fairies, gremlins, woodland nymphs, or other non-existent spooky stuff, Satan(evil as Supreme) works well for an added kick. You'll be feeding him his arguments while he sits there and tries to refute them himself...

either he'll give up, run into the fundy hole, or kill you after he realizes you could destroy his feeble little world.

keyser_soze

How is that NOT the issue? He questioned that some irrational soul stated that the bible was the best work in relation to history in existence...when is SO obviously is not. I can combine a set of older authors works from rome into a more seemless work than the bible did. Anyone could I imagine, the same gods, the same belief systems, they'll have valid historical, geographical information, and on top of that...they'll be far less ignorant of the world. So, IF YOU CAN manage to address the topic, please indicate how the bible is a better tool to determine history and morality than any other books of it's time. I'll even let you manage it by using works from FAR older times if you like. Now, don't forget to add in all the other religions of the world, as you can't really claim that your invisible sky-daddy's book of adoration is the only one in existance. That would be irrational.

Haran

Keyser, you are only pointing out what you perceive to be errors in the Bible (and Christianity in general, since the weeping statues are not found in the Bible). You have not actually compared the Bible's accuracy to that of other ancient works. You mentioned some other ancient works and seemed to say they were more accurate, then you said that was not what you meant.

To refute the Christian's statement one needs to identify what ancient works are more accurate than the Bible and why. I do not say that I necessarily agree with the Christian's statement, but I would like to know why others dismiss it without addressing it in detail.

Were you previously Christian? How long ago did you "deconvert"?

I am curious because your posts seem rather unnecessarily emotional...

keyser_soze

I was a christian probably about 6 years ago. And no, they are not unnecessarily emotional to me, but hey, we can ask some people. Feel free. I oppose the religious indoctrination of the world, I feel strongly about THAT. I can too easily see our slide back into the dark ages at the current rate. And if you thought the catholics were scary during THEIR administration of society, get ready for truly horrible, because fundys are FAR more intolerant, far more destructive, and far more brainwashed. The catholics believed IN it, the fundys believe IT. There is a huge difference, and much more propensity for violence. Of coures, I could be wrong, perhaps such a thing could never happen again, after all...we're civilized these days. Surely such a thing couldn't occur in a civilized world.

Haran

I'll guarantee you one thing, Keyser. Derogatorily labeling them "fundies" and dismissing their arguments out of hand without making them think hard about the issues they raise will not do anything other than make them mad so that they retreat further into dogmatism. If you don't believe me, then throw some of these remarks at a KJV Christian and see how he reacts.

I know many fundamentalists and I do not feel that they are any more violent or immoral than non-Christians I know. If you are nice to them, they will more than likely be nice to you. Some (on either side of the philosophical fence) will never be nice to anyone.

Unbeliever

The book titled 101 Myths of the Bible is an excellent source for research into Biblical mythology. I highly recomend it!

Soul Invictus

I have this book...VERY informative however it's lacking on the resources/bibliography part.

TomboyMom

So what you're saying is that this person really and truly believes (among other things) that a guy named Noah built a boat, and got on to the boat 2 of each and every species of then living animal, and then this person's God made it rain and rain and rain until all the other people besides Noah's family and all the other animals besides those pairs died, and then it stopped raining, and Noah landed his boat in Armenia, and let all the animals out, and all of species of animals now in the world are descended from those animals, and all of the people are descended from Noah's family?
If this person seriously and literally believes this, he doesn't need reasoned discourse, he needs medication.

Now excuse me while I join SLD ROFLMAO.

Rene