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Old 05-14-2003, 04:26 AM   #1
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Default Does earth's gravity affect the rest of the universe?

The Law of gravity states, correct me if I am wrong, that matter attracts matter, or matter affects matter.

If it attracts matter, it should affect other galaxies as well. As gravity is present everywhere in the universe, it stands to reason that it will also affect everything else.

So the movement of earth affects teh rest of the universe.

Earth's gravity affects both the moon and Mars, although the pull may be different, less or whatever, it still affects it. Even though the pull is just 0.00000000000001 units of gravity pull there still is one.

Does gravity extend to the entire cosmos? We assume it does right?

Is there a border? Is there somewhere where gravity isn't affecting?


Since humans also have mass, we also affect the web of gravity with our actions and movements. So whatever we do the rest of the universe is affected by it.


Does our thoughts and words also have "gravity"?

Lets look at Buddha. He started teaching his way of understanding, and the "heavyness" of his teachings caused many people to flock to his lectures, and when he died his teaching in the form of the written word also and still does, causes people to search it out and see if that "gravity pull" is interesting.

Lets look at Jesus. He started teaching as well, and some started to follow him, because he, in their minds, was someone special, the "gravity pull" of Jesus was big, and have caused and causes millions of humans to flock to the center of gravity's pull.


The principle of gravity is present in a sense on both thephysical and the non-physical it seems.

INterestingly enough teh bible states: "In the beginning there was teh word, and teh word was with God, and teh word was God"

If God created gravity and the word, it seems the word being God's, will attract us. Namely when we hear humans speak, we are drawn in, and asks "what do they have to say?"



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Gravity is everywhere, because the metric of space is the gravitational field. So even a paper clip countless light years away has a gravitational effect on everything else.
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Gravity is everywhere, because the metric of space is the gravitational field. So even a paper clip countless light years away has a gravitational effect on everything else.

So everything that Is, is connected via gravity. So the statement "all is one" is somewhat relevant here.

The law of karma suddenly pops up. What you do to the universe, the universe will do to you, because of the interconnectedness. Is it possible?




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Your attempt to shoehorn philosophy into every conceivable topic is somewhat amusing, but I'd rather see you try to place topics in the proper fora initially.

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Gravity is everywhere, because the metric of space is the gravitational field. So even a paper clip countless light years away has a gravitational effect on everything else.

So everything that Is, is connected via gravity. So the statement "all is one" is somewhat relevant here.

The law of karma suddenly pops up. What you do to the universe, the universe will do to you, because of the interconnectedness. Is it possible?




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No. The ONLY way that gravity in the universe does to you as you do to the rest of the universe is exert a gravitational pull. This has no moral significance whatsoever, and has nothing to do with whether you are a good person or a bad one. The things throughout the universe exert a gravitational pull on you whether you are loving someone or killing them. Most of the things in the universe are so far away that their pull on you is completely insignificant for your daily life. Just about the only thing that exerts a significant pull on you is the earth. (The pull of the moon is significant to the earth, but not to you directly. The same may be said of the sun. So both of those are significant to your life, but only because of their affect on the earth, which is pretty much the same no matter what you are doing.)

As for your comment in your original post about "non-physical" stuff, gravity has to do with the physical world.

As far as being "drawn in" to people when they speak, this is a psychological effect, not a gravitational one. In order for something to have a significant gravitational pull on you, it must be very massive, and people do not have enough mass to be important in this regard, as far as your life is concerned.
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No.
Theory goes, gravity is a product of mass. More mass=more gravity.
My body has no gravitational effect on the earth because the ratio of Earth/Mark is in favor of Earth by magnitudes.
There is a limit(distance) where the gravitational pull of a body peters out. Once again, dependent on mass.
Astronomical/planetary convergences will not magnify thier collective gravitational pull.
Karma is bullshit. What goes around does not come around. People who do bad shit are usually in situations where bad shit can happen to them. It's just a matter of time. No cosmic justice.
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yes the effect of earths gravity has an effect on the universe along with all masses in the universe.
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Gravity attracts inversely as to th SQUARE of the distance.

That means that the force of gravity gets weaker extremely fast as you get farther away.

So while the earth's gravity does affect all other bodies, the effect is vanishingly small.

Gravity is the weakest of the four known forces.
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Yes, just because gravity 'affects' everything else, don't assume that the effect is anything other than a gravitational one.

Gravity is not karma, nor is it any other sort of touchy-feely universal 'connectedness'.

'A' remains 'A'.

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Well, technically Jesus and Buddha both exerted a gravitational force. (Assuming they were both historical figures, of course. We won't go into that now.) They had bodies; the bodies had a gravitational pull.

Buddha would have had a greater influence than Jesus, though. He was a bit larger, according to most statues. Anyway...
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