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Old 11-11-2002, 08:07 AM   #11
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I think there is only one possible way to handle this debate: lie.

Invent studes, facts, theories. Make up entire scientists if you need someone to quote. Forge pictures using photoshop, or make your own drawings and surround them with what looks like a page from a real technical journal.

After all, you will be doing it for God, no matter what the commandments state...
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Hi Meagan,

The only way for you to "win" the debate is to lie. Here are a few lies that creationists like to use.

<ol type="1">[*]Evilution is not science.[*]Evilution is not christian.[*]Cell theory disproves evilution.[*]The second law of thermodynamics disproves evilution.[*]Even Darwin recanted evilution when faced with eternity in hell.[*]There are no missing links, such as a half-plant-half-dog.[*]Evilution promotes racism.[*]Millions of scientists are fighting the Darwinian Indoctrinitation even if it costs them their lives.[*]If evilution were true, why hasn't anyone collected Hovind's $250,000.[*]Were you there?[/list=a]

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Old 11-11-2002, 08:16 AM   #13
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And if you need references, just put in:

(God, personal communication).
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Old 11-11-2002, 08:25 AM   #14
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The only way for you to "win" the debate is to lie.</strong>
...which is why this is an absolutely awful excuse for a classroom exercise. What will this student learn from it? Nothing at all.

I've had students evaluate creationist arguments before (I actually spent my weekend grading papers on the subject), but I always have them take the evolutionist side -- that's where the evidence is. I might play devil's advocate in the class and throw out some of the creationist nonsense, but I wouldn't consider asking students to endorse that crap, even for pretend.
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Old 11-11-2002, 09:19 AM   #15
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Nice post Rufus, but you forgot to mention that ALL great scientists, like Isaac Newton, were Creationists and never accepted evolution for a minute.
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Old 11-11-2002, 09:38 AM   #16
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You should argue that if Man came from monkeys, then why aren't there any more monkeys?


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Abby, read it carefully, now...
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Old 11-11-2002, 09:39 AM   #17
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Since it's an anthropology class, argue that Quetzalcoatl did it. That will piss off the actual creationists in class, who will then be forced to show why their myth is superior to yours. Voila! A session in comparative mythology, which is far more germane to an anthropology course. Unless it's a physical anthropology class, in which case pz's original objection applies.

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<strong>Proof of Creationism</strong>
Well, I do remember a number of years ago when I was out fell walking (I wasn't in the lake district BTW, I just fell walking) and I came across a cave. It looked about as old as the earth, and on the back wall was carved 'Earth MkII, Made By God AD -4800ish. It makes you think doesn't it.

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A great many things make me think "doesn't it", actually. Twelve breasts in row, for instance.
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<strong>A great many things make me think "doesn't it", actually. Twelve breasts in row, for instance.</strong>
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