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Vanderzyden · 09-22-2002, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Doubting Didymus:
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My own pet topic with vander at the moment is the level of agreement between phylogenetic trees. I will repeat my question for vander here:

Vander, you request references that demonstrate the level of agreement in phylogenetic trees. I have several times now offered a simple quote to that effect from a current university approved biology textbook. Will that be sufficient, and if not, what more do you need?</strong>

I think that you can answer your own question, DD.

If I offered you a single statement from one of my books, would you accept it prima facie (on its face)? No, I don't think you would.

What I have been requesting is a demonstration.

Show us. Argue. Contend. Discuss. Persuade.

Demonstrate your claim.

(Oh, please do it with respect.

)

Vanderzyden

Doubting Didymus · 09-22-2002, 09:56 PM

Okay, you won't accept the word of a university grade biology textbook.

WHAT WILL YOU ACCEPT?

Do you need journal articles? But on both monkensticks and scigirls challenges, you demanded 'corroboration, despite being shown several journal articles with the same conclusion.

Clearly, you simply do not accept anything by biological scientists. If I am wrong, please tell me what kind of demonstration you require?

I have asked this question many many times. Please, and with respect, answer it this time.

lpetrich · 09-22-2002, 10:14 PM

I have a suspicion that if someone took Vanderzyden in a time-machine trip back in time over the history of the Earth, he'd close his eyes and announce in his characteristic smug manner, "I don't see any evolution happening".

And I also have a suspicion that he'd say that even if the one taking him on that trip was the God he professes to believe in.

[ September 22, 2002: Message edited by: lpetrich ]</p>

Doubting Didymus · 09-22-2002, 10:28 PM

Well now you've insulted him.

He won't talk to you anymore.

lpetrich · 09-23-2002, 12:58 AM

But he has never responded to anything I've posted, so how would he be doing anything different?

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09-22-2002, 09:56 PM	#292
Doubting Didymus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Coast. Australia. Posts: 5,455	Okay, you won't accept the word of a university grade biology textbook. WHAT WILL YOU ACCEPT? Do you need journal articles? But on both monkensticks and scigirls challenges, you demanded 'corroboration, despite being shown several journal articles with the same conclusion. Clearly, you simply do not accept anything by biological scientists. If I am wrong, please tell me what kind of demonstration you require? I have asked this question many many times. Please, and with respect, answer it this time.

09-22-2002, 10:14 PM	#293
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	I have a suspicion that if someone took Vanderzyden in a time-machine trip back in time over the history of the Earth, he'd close his eyes and announce in his characteristic smug manner, "I don't see any evolution happening". And I also have a suspicion that he'd say that even if the one taking him on that trip was the God he professes to believe in. [ September 22, 2002: Message edited by: lpetrich ]</p>

09-22-2002, 10:28 PM	#294
Doubting Didymus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Coast. Australia. Posts: 5,455	Well now you've insulted him. He won't talk to you anymore.

09-23-2002, 12:58 AM	#295
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	But he has never responded to anything I've posted, so how would he be doing anything different?

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