Magus55

Yup

7thangel

Yes, Magus. I realized that it really is a miracle itself to convince these people. But I guess God will make these atheists to experience a high degree of suffering, and let me see if they would seek after human abilities or God. I do not pray that they will suffer, but for the prophesies to be fulfilled God would surely do it to them.

By the way, I pray that the christians who post in here be united. I believe most of them do not have the same belief to common Christian denominations. I guess that would make them part of the gentiles spoken in the prophesy. So let God's will be done. Amen.

God Bless,
NILO

The Naked Mage

You listen to people, yet at the same time, you don't. How the hell do you DO that??

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by 7thangel
Yes, Magus. I realized that it really is a miracle itself to convince these people.

If you classify rationality and honesty as a miracle. Magus shows neither of these, so he couldn't convince a bird to fly.

But I guess God will make these atheists to experience a high degree of suffering, and let me see if they would seek after human abilities or God.

Being tortured usually doesn't make me hold the torturer in high regard. A lobotomy might do so; perhaps your god has that in mind as well?

I do not pray that they will suffer,

Sure you don't. Come on, tell me more about this "high degree of suffering". I want to hear about every iota of pain and every brutality your god plans to inflict on me.

but for the prophesies to be fulfilled God would surely do it to them.

<shrug> If the god of the bible could commit genocide and authorize rape, it doesn't surprise me that his followers would be secure in the knowledge that he's still torturing people.

Magus55

Thanks for the insult QoS, appreciate it. When have i not been honest and rational? I've always strived for honest and iv'e been very rational from a Christian standpoint, maybe not from an atheist one but on the same token, from some of the arguments by atheists iv'e seen less rationality coming from your side then the Christian one.

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Magus55
Thanks for the insult QoS, appreciate it.

As a dealer of insults yourself, this is high praise.

When have i not been honest and rational?

From the start. You ignore questions posed to you on other threads, you generalize and you fling around plenty of smelly stuff of your own. Would you like me to produce quotes?

I've always strived for honest

My word, I can only imagine what shockers you produce when you are not striving for honesty.

and iv'e been very rational from a Christian standpoint, maybe not from an atheist one

I doubt the first statement. Perhaps you should clarify what the "Christian standpoint" is regarding rational discourse.

but on the same token, from some of the arguments by atheists iv'e seen less rationality coming from your side then the Christian one.

My personal view is that you wouldn't recognize rationality if it did a tap dance around you, but here's your chance to prove me wrong - quote an argument by an atheist regarding atheism and point out to me how it reflects less rationality than the Christian one. Feel up to that?

Elvithriel

I love it when these theists give us the fire and brimstone routine. Alot of them believe in God just for the sole reason that they don't want to go to hell.

I don't beleive in God... Just as I don't beleive in Santa Claus.

On the question of being rational, 7thangel I someday hope that before your time is over you will realize how silly religion is.

Magus55

I don't bother responding to dumb tests because its generally pointless. Iv'e already proved an OT prophecy and you all just claim it was self-fullfilled ( which is where the most irrational argument i have yet to see on this board comes from). If you seriously think a militaryless, poorly armed, tiny nation, defeated 5 invading Arab countries with superior armies, and then took over some of the land that was gonna be given to the Arabs on their own, in the exact way the prophecy said it would 3000 years ago, you lost all rationale.

Queen of Swords

Originally posted by Magus55
I don't bother responding to dumb tests because its generally pointless.

I notice you don't ask me to provide any previous quotes of yours, nor do you provide any of your own to back up your unproven assertions. Congratulations, Magus, you have learned to recognize a battle wherein you will be soundly defeated.

Iv'e already proved an OT prophecy and you all just claim it was self-fullfilled

Don't tell that to me, tell that to the people who claim it. Unless you are so confused you have mixed us up (which is quite possible)?

( which is where the most irrational argument i have yet to see on this board comes from).

No, no, you do your own irrational arguments too little credit.

...you lost all rationale.

Rationality. Also pot, kettle, and black.

7thangel

I have no knowledge of what you refer particularly. But I guess we all think that what we believe is rational in anyway. That is fair to both parties, theists and atheists. And as far as I am concern, I really think that he is honest, maybe he's mistaken, but surely honest.

It is not just accepting Him of His existence, but also of understanding Him of His power of all things. And making correcting us through circumstances is surely better IMO.

The thing is He will do so if you are chosen. Such behaviour you are showing is just mere sarcasm, and I guess that is not even a intellectual way of dealing about the matter.

I have to accept the reality that the evil things that existed were very much beneficial to humanity. But to say that God promotes this evil things instead of being a tool for us to be in better state of being is, IMO, just ignorance of the concept of Godhead. Honestly, I really cannot convince you of something you are ignorant of.