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Old 03-15-2003, 06:36 AM   #51
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If I'd been around , the only "miracle" would have been if that punk Yahweh got away in one piece.

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Actually, Cth, you shouldn't ask an easy question like that. The power came from Satan, of course!
Yes, I anticipated that response, but then the question becomes why Satan wasn't mentioned anywhere, and why Yahweh let him undermine his display of power like that. (And yes, I can already guess the stock reply to that one too.)
 
Old 07-07-2003, 02:01 AM   #52
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As spurly has mentioned,

God does not hardened people's hearts if they are willing and repentant. The meaning of God saying he will harden the pharoah's heart is that he was giving the Pharoah over to his sin. It's the old testament precursor to Romans 1:18-32.
The pharoah would have NEVER obeyed God no matter what,
Then why did the final plague succeed?

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You will also notice, the plagues of Egypt get progressively worse, had the Pharoah not been so stubborn and taken heed of God's warnings about his wonders, he could have prevented the bad plagues. The plagues were: staff became a serpent, water turned to blood, river brought forth frogs, dust became lice, swarm of flies, livestock died, boils, rained hail and fire, storm of locusts, darkness, and then he sent the Angel of Death.
If all that were true, then why not get it over with with the final plague? Why draw out the agony?

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If you read it, God stopped each plague, and this didn't all happen in a day - it happened over weeks. The Pharoah had plenty of time to let the Jews go, but he refused. Once the boils came, the Pharoah tried to trick God, he said he would apologize to God and let the Jews go if God would stop the plagues, God did so and the Pharoah turned right around, hardened his heart again and said - nah nevermind - i'm not letting them go. The Pharoah brought the plagues on himself and his people. The pharoah was evil, convining and vindictive.
Your god's much worse.

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Since God also created life, he has the right to take it away. God decides when its your time to go, and its on his time, not yours.
So if I built your house, I can demolish it while you're inside? Gee, thanks!
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