AquaVita

My teen years weren't rife with sexual misconception and activity because my arm itched. They were so because some fucking jerk decided to play doctor with me and some other boys at my daycare.

Whatever....


Ok. Look....scratching an itch is an activity that involves one's SELF. As is a harmless activity such as masturbating. But if you are going to tell me that a sexual urge is on the same level as having an itch, then you my friend, are sorely mistaken. I might like to have sex with one of my co-workers, but if she doesn't feel the same, should I not need consent?

Are you going to tell me that a child understands what he/she is getting into? When things like this happen, what they do know is confusion and hurt. Especailly as time goes by.

Your argument is irrational, has no logic, and no foundation in any type of reality. I will go at it point by point, but at another time. I am much too angry to continue posting at this time.But I want you to know what happens to children who go through these thing. I wish you could look in my eyes and see it for yourself.

yguy

The only reason you're angry, of course, is that your cherished beliefs are being threatened, just as those of religious authorities were threatened by the heliocentric model of the solar system.

Philosoft

I'm glad you affixed that smiley, because this is certainly a joke.

yguy

It's not a joke. Mr. Kelly is not a joke.

Unfortunately, the rules here forbid me from saying what he is.

Pat Kelly

Boy! Hit you guys with a little reality and you all go off the emotional deep end. Well there is a smily that somehow seems more appropriate than words...

:boohoo:

Philosoft

Whatever Mr. Kelly may or may not be, I was referring to your uncanny prescience regarding the basis for AquaVita's anger. Apparently, you don't like to deal with the complexity of the human psyche.

yguy

Do not make the mistake of thinking you can play with my brains, Mr. Kelly. I know a manipulator when I see one.

Philosoft

I'll give you one thing - you certainly are persistent. Not many folks would bother resurrecting that inane argument after the beating it took the first time. News flash: You won't have better luck this time.

AquaVita

I will not continue to grace your presence with my words. You do not deserve that much.

Pat Kelly

Whenever I come to this board it reminds me how little some people understand sex.

Sex is an opportunity waiting to happen. To understand the realities of sex one must consider that each and every one of us is constantly driven to fulfill sexual needs regardless of how we may have learned to view sex. Though how we decide to meet our sexual needs is greatly influenced by social rules governing what is considered acceptable sexual behavior, where those rules stand between us and sex, sex is frequently the unsurprising winner.

Our sexual needs can direct us to do several things. We can approach others around us for sex or respond affirmably when someone approaches us. We can use our imagination to create sexually fulfilling encounters where reality has failed to provide us with a more suitable partner. We can resist and reject the inner calls to sexual behavior altogether and attempt to totally abstain from sex.

Now if you take a bunch of sexually motivated individuals, otherwise known as humans, and drop them into small groups like families, friends, employees, clubs, excreta, the inevitable is bound to happen. People are going to engage in sexual behavior with one another and sexual needs will be met. Ideally, everyone would always have contact with someone they found sexually attractive and would also be socially unrestrained from pursuing such a relationship. Unfortunately, reality appears to have had something else in mind for us.

There are many obstacles evolution appears to have purposely placed between us and our quest for sexual pleasure. The most obvious relates to how physically attractive we may or may not happen to be. Other obstacles relate to our intelligence and personality, which both play very important roles in how successful or unsuccessful we are at wooing others into sex. Still other obstacles relate to our personal wealth, status, power and the air of attractiveness that comes with success.

We must usually compete with others for sex, which highlights our abilities to learn and mimic socially prescribed roles. Finding the right sexual partner also involves locating someone who mirrors our own level of sexual attractiveness. Set your sights too high and you may be in for a bit of rejection. Set your sights too low and you will likely become the rejecter as soon as a better opportunity comes along. The rules of sex dictated by billions of years of evolution are really not that complex or hard to understand. At least not until human culture hijacked them so they could play pivotal roles in religion and other manifestations of humanity’s desire to control one another.

The family, through its organizational structure that dictates people be in close proximity to one another, is a natural breading ground for sex. Children are naturally drawn to close siblings or anyone else open to engaging in mutual sexual experimentation. Any other family members not gainfully involved in established fulfilling sexual relationships become both potential sexual targets and predators as well. Not that being a sexual predator is a bad thing because in our own ways we are all on the prowl for sex. Most everyone understands this unspoken reality and where sex poses a risk of breaking socially imposed rules, steps are usually taken to protect and maintain the socially imposed rules.

You may have noticed the unspoken suspicions that frequently discourage the relationships between granddads and granddaughters especially if the granddaughters are nearing adolescence. Most people instinctually understand that grandma has lost much of her sexual appeal, leaving grandpa looking for greener pastures. On the scale of sexual attractiveness, grandpa does not rate too high either greatly limiting those he might successfully seduce into sexual activity. He is all too aware of this and likely learned long ago that his choices are limited at best. Add to this one blossoming and easily aroused young lady socially prohibited from enjoying her sexuality with others and you have all the elements necessary for sex. And no one know this better than grandma who may have acquired her knowledge firsthand from her own grandpa or from the same source that tells the rest of us granddaughters and grandpas need looking in on once in awhile.

It should be said that grandpas have unquestionably been singled out unfairly as least able to control their sexual urges. In reality grandma is also longing for sex just as much as everyone else is though she hides it a bit better behind her apple pie and nurturing motherhood skills.

No one should assume the sexual relationships between moms and dads are always running smoothly either leaving no one sexually unfilled or a potential target for sex outside the marriage. And sex outside of marriage does not always translate into sex outside the family. Again, where opportunities for sex meet those with unfilled sexual needs, the stage is always set for people to behave sexually.

Now everyone wants to see themselves as a good person and where the reality of our sexual needs conflict with socially imposed limitations we are forced to make a choice. We can either take a chance and hope we do not get caught in some socially unacceptable sex with a socially unacceptable partner or we can restrict such things to our imaginations and maintain the myth we never experience anything outside sexual acceptability. Most grandfathers are experts at this along with everyone else not in the midst of their sexual prime. One has to wonder what would happen if enough of us came forward and challenged current social views that make the full range of natural human sexuality unacceptable. Is it possible that we could still see ourselves as good people while at the same tome changing the acceptability standards so they became more in line with reality?

Our prisons overflow with those whose only crime was to get caught challenging current social restrictions against sex through doing nothing more than behaving like a human being. If everyone was put in jail who ever stepped over the social boundaries of acceptable sex there would be no one left to turn all the keys. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the only thing actually harmed by the imprisoned and persecuted was the ideas themselves that certain people should not engage in sex with certain others. The true victims in victimless sex crimes void of force or violence are every one of us as we submit to the laws and understandings that oppose the true nature of ourselves. We cannot help it if we are sexual or change the reality of what goes on inside us. We are bound to act like a human and it is nothing less than social insanity that would have us do anything else.