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Writer@Large · 12-07-2002, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vorkosigan:
You can't remove it and not be a thief.

What about putting it in a bag of McDonald's wrappers and spent ketchup packets, then putting it in the trash? I never remove it from the room ...

--W@L

Splat · 12-07-2002, 02:06 PM

What if you accidentally drop one in the toilet, then use the plastic wrap from the ice bucket to pick it up and put it in the sink so you can wash it real good (shampoo would be a good idea here; and you might as well give it a good rubdown with the complimentary hand cream, it being the Good Book and all), then put it back in the drawer for the next person?

That would sure be a bummer.

Or what if it accidentally caught fire in the bathtub?

That would be a bummer too. Yesiree.

Toto · 12-07-2002, 06:17 PM

Ahem.

I have to warn you that it is decidedly not the policy of this board to encourage the destruction or mutilation of property, whether with fast food condiments, hotel shampoo or lotion, or by using the pages as kindling or rolling paper, or by affixing any of the mini-stickers available on <a href="http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/stickers.html" target="_blank">this page</a>, including this one:

or this one:

It must be noted that the burning of books (and people) is a Christian tradition. And that if some so-called Christians actually read their Bibles instead of using them as magic lucky rabbit's feet, they might see the light and renounce their religion, which would be all to the better.

[ December 08, 2002: Message edited by: Toto ]

Daggah · 12-07-2002, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radorth:


I hereby declare God will forgive anyone who steals it and reads it, and maybe even Vorkosigan, who would doubtless burn it.

Rad

Shut up Radorth.

ybnormal · 12-07-2002, 09:30 PM

If I take the Gideon Bible with me when I leave the motel room am I stealing?

Not in all cases... I've taken many thousands of those bibles out of hotel and motel rooms in 6 states from Florida to California since the late Sixties... I've also prevented them from being replaced for years afterwards in many cases... it was perfectly legal and I don't recall anyone ever noticing their absence. It's been one of my private little feelgood crusades while renovating and operating hotels. And you would be surprised just how many of those bibles are stolen, right along with those special coat hangers that are totally useless anywhere else on the planet.

Defiant Heretic · 12-07-2002, 10:42 PM

I usually don�t steal them. Instead I insert a bookmark that says:

Numbers 31:17-18
Deuteronomy 7:1-2
Joshua 8: 24-25
Exodus 20:13

So you don�t have to look up the verses yourself, here is what they say.

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Originally posted by Yahweh, who, as we all know, dictated the KJV directly:

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. -Numbers 31:17-18

When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them -Deuteronomy 7:1-2

And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.
And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai. -Joshua 8: 24-25

Thou shalt not kill. -Exodus 20:13

[Edited because the software really didn't want the entire quote to be in bold.]

[ December 07, 2002: Message edited by: Defiant Heretic ]

Vorkosigan · 12-08-2002, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radorth:


I hereby declare God will forgive anyone who steals it and reads it, and maybe even Vorkosigan, who would doubtless burn it.

Rad

Don't suggest, even in jest, that I would burn a book. Br-r-r-r. Unthinkable.

MrDarwin · 12-08-2002, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Defiant Heretic:
I usually don’t steal them. Instead I insert a bookmark that says:

Numbers 31:17-18
Deuteronomy 7:1-2
Joshua 8: 24-25
Exodus 20:13

Please please please add to your list one of my all-time favorite bible verses, Deuteronomy 21: 18-21:

Quote:

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Oresta · 12-08-2002, 05:52 AM

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Yes. The Bible is either the property of the Gideons or the property of the hotel. DOn Morgan contacted the Gideons with this exact question a while back, and got the clear answer. You can't remove it and not be a thief.

I'm a thief! Years ago I realized that my library lacked a copy of the King James Bible, so I, um, partook of the Gideon's generosity. Far be it from me to pay for one. I thought it would make some Gideon's day to have to go out and replace a Bible.

Defiant Heretic · 12-08-2002, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by MrDarwin:
Please please please add to your list one of my all-time favorite bible verses, Deuteronomy 21: 18-21:

Well, I just make these at the hotel. I forgot to print out one of those stickers before the Godless March, so I just took a page from the hotel's stationary and paged through the bible until I had four verses that ordered mass murder. (It took about five minutes.) Then I wrote them down on the paper and put it in the center of the bible.

12-07-2002, 06:17 PM	#13
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Ahem. I have to warn you that it is decidedly not the policy of this board to encourage the destruction or mutilation of property, whether with fast food condiments, hotel shampoo or lotion, or by using the pages as kindling or rolling paper, or by affixing any of the mini-stickers available on <a href="http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/stickers.html" target="_blank">this page</a>, including this one: or this one: It must be noted that the burning of books (and people) is a Christian tradition. And that if some so-called Christians actually read their Bibles instead of using them as magic lucky rabbit's feet, they might see the light and renounce their religion, which would be all to the better. [ December 08, 2002: Message edited by: Toto ]</p>

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12-07-2002, 02:06 PM	#12
Splat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hell, PA Posts: 599	What if you accidentally drop one in the toilet, then use the plastic wrap from the ice bucket to pick it up and put it in the sink so you can wash it real good (shampoo would be a good idea here; and you might as well give it a good rubdown with the complimentary hand cream, it being the Good Book and all), then put it back in the drawer for the next person? That would sure be a bummer. Or what if it accidentally caught fire in the bathtub? That would be a bummer too. Yesiree.

12-07-2002, 09:30 PM	#15
ybnormal Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 430	If I take the Gideon Bible with me when I leave the motel room am I stealing? Not in all cases... I've taken many thousands of those bibles out of hotel and motel rooms in 6 states from Florida to California since the late Sixties... I've also prevented them from being replaced for years afterwards in many cases... it was perfectly legal and I don't recall anyone ever noticing their absence. It's been one of my private little feelgood crusades while renovating and operating hotels. And you would be surprised just how many of those bibles are stolen, right along with those special coat hangers that are totally useless anywhere else on the planet.

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