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Old 06-30-2003, 08:10 AM   #1
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Thumbs down YEC'ers and compromise

Evolution is absolutely false! Well, macro-evolution is false. We understand micro-evolution is real.

The Documentary Hypothesis is absolutely trash and has been rebuked over and over again! Well, Moses used older stories in compiling Genesis through Deuteronomy. That's perfectly normal to think, but JEDP is just wrong!

Am I the only one who sees a mind boggling manner of poor critical thinking here? They'll adapt as much as they can to real science and theories, but they'll be darned if they go the whole way and screw up their infalliable 6000 year old universe.
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Evolution is absolutely false! Well, macro-evolution is false. We understand micro-evolution is real.
Well, actually macro-evolution is real if it can help explain the flood. Just keep that pesky speciation within the same "kind."

But yes, I get your point, and it boggles my mind as well.
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The YECs, at some level, realize they're facing a losing battle and pre-emptively protect themselves from criticism by trying to make sure the most obvious avenues for debunking are already covered.
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After interacting with many yecs, I've come to the conclusion that they are just afraid of the word "evolution." In many instances, they are completely fine with the process, until you call it evolution. Sometimes they will even try to say that the process is not evolution because they accept the process, but they don't accept "evolution."
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Yeah, I love their articles that say stuff like:

"Well, after each pair of animals got off the ark they split into a few thousand different species (within the same KIND, mind you! And just to be absolutely clear, this is QUADRADIC DIAGONAL VARIATION, not evilution!)"

"Of course we accept that mutation and natural selection produce variation. If that's all evolution was, we'd believe in evolution too!"

All right, then, gentlemen, what do you think evolution is?
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Its almost like Bush in the debate with Gore, ~"I believe in Affirmative Action, as how I said I did."
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After interacting with many yecs, I've come to the conclusion that they are just afraid of the word "evolution." In many instances, they are completely fine with the process, until you call it evolution. Sometimes they will even try to say that the process is not evolution because they accept the process, but they don't accept "evolution."
There must be some truth to this. They have been conditioned to associate belief in evolution with a destiny in the Eternal Torture Chamber, not to mention moral decline, tooth decay, and lots of other bad stuff.


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All right, then, gentlemen, what do you think evolution is?
It's a monkey giving birth to a human, of course!

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Interestingly, someone raised a point in a different forum that one practice of cults/control groups is to make up new definitions for words to use within the group as a way of isolating the members from greater society. I think this often applies to the way creationists use the term "evolution".
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Its almost like Bush in the debate with Gore, ~"I believe in Affirmative Action, as how I said I did."
Bush may mis-speak now and then, but don't misunderestimate his analyzation abilities: clearly he is an exemplarary president, who believes in a foreign handed foreign policy, and his ideas resignate with the people.


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