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Not Prince Hamlet · 03-22-2002, 08:23 AM

Jonsey,

George is never clear on that point. Sometimes, he says that there is a Mrs. Turnip, and sometimes he claims that there is a little baby Turnip, and sometimes he claims that all three are in reality one: a Holy Turnip Trinity.

It doesn't make any sense, but George tells me it's a higher mystery. (Though, I could of sworn I heard Him snickering.)

Jeff

Philosoft · 03-22-2002, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet:
For that matter, what makes the Christian God a "he"?

That would be his y-chromosome. Duh.

Jonsey3333 · 03-24-2002, 11:08 PM

Is there a holy turnip spririt as well? Was the baby turnip immaculately conceived?

-Mike

Samhain · 03-25-2002, 12:15 AM

Heh, sorry guys, you got me...

I'm actually trying to picture what this turnip would look like...

Jonsey3333 · 04-01-2002, 11:54 AM

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Theli · 04-01-2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Not Prince Hamlet:
I would now like to reveal my secret argument against theism. It will seem facetious, but hear it out.

I worship a deity. His name is George, and he is a giant turnip. George is all-powerful, omniscient, deceitful, and mischevious. He is fond of planting false information, confusing His worshippers, and changing His mind (that is, when He actually tells you what He's thinking in the first place).

So, I worship George.

The gauntlet I cast before theists is this: prove to me that my god is false and your god real.

Seems facetious, no? But there's a method to the madness.

You see, any evidence you could come up with to support, say, the Christian God, will also support my god, George the Giant Turnip. For instance, if you say, "Look, there's a Bible that explicitly mentions Christ," I turn around and say, "Yep, that crazy George is all-powerful and a prankster. He deliberately planted false information about Christ in the Bible because He wanted to confuse people and make them think that there was such a person."

What does this do for theism? Well, it essentially negates any argument a theist can use. You will have demonstrated that the same arguments that they are using support a vast number of equally (or more) valid hypoethese and that, therefore, their evidence is merely suggestive evidence, and not conclusive evidence.

Basically, they're saying: A -> B -> C -> God. You're saying, yes, but A -> B -> C-> George, too. Therefore, A, B, C do not prove the existance of God. If they did, they would also prove the existance of George the Giant Turnip.

This is a great argument. I've used this myself, only with an intergalactic banana.
It's a plead of ignorance. "Everything might be invented", "The world might mot exist". But then I think it's pretty strange that someone can assimilate info from our reality surrounding us to reach the conclusion that an entity like george or god exists if that reality can't be trusted as being real.

Oh well... The george theory can use many of the strongest arguments for the christian god's existance. And can make them useless, since they can be used to prove just about anything.
Just by assuming supernaturalism (or magic) you can prove (or open the possibility) for everything. Including god, and george. Perhaps even my banana.

All hail George! God of atheism!

Hans · 04-01-2002, 01:56 PM

"George the Turnip" puts the phrase "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was convincing the world he doesn't exist" in a whole new light.

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03-22-2002, 08:23 AM	#41
Not Prince Hamlet Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,309	Jonsey, George is never clear on that point. Sometimes, he says that there is a Mrs. Turnip, and sometimes he claims that there is a little baby Turnip, and sometimes he claims that all three are in reality one: a Holy Turnip Trinity. It doesn't make any sense, but George tells me it's a higher mystery. (Though, I could of sworn I heard Him snickering.) Jeff

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Jonsey3333 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota, USA Posts: 92	Is there a holy turnip spririt as well? Was the baby turnip immaculately conceived? -Mike

03-25-2002, 12:15 AM	#44
Samhain Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,735	Heh, sorry guys, you got me... I'm actually trying to picture what this turnip would look like...

04-01-2002, 01:56 PM	#47
Hans Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 247	"George the Turnip" puts the phrase "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was convincing the world he doesn't exist" in a whole new light.

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