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Old 05-21-2003, 12:00 AM   #21
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You got a link or source for the fractal river thing? I'd be very interested in that. I was talking with a math teacher in college and he was saying ferns grow in patterns of fractals. That is some weird stuff. Nature can be so cool like that. Oh wait, I'm worshiping the gift, not the god, DOH!
Ferns do exhibit fractal patterns. A lot of biological systems do, I believe. I'm no expert on it, but I would naively think it has to do with economy of genetic material. If you have the code to grow x segments of y, you can then apply that same code recursively (modifying how y is expressed at each level of recursion, of course) to produce a nice sprawling array of leaves or fronds or whatnot.

Here's a fern generated by a fractal algorithm:

from this website

Notice that the giant frond is made up of mini-fronds (smaller versions of the entire frond). Each mini-frond is made up of even minier fronds.


Here's a real fern:

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Old 05-21-2003, 07:14 AM   #22
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Even better at CreationTalk.com, try this thread:

http://www.creationtalk.com/message-...3b1c3d806#6524

The person's argument, marklondon2003, basically is we all know God exists. Until someone can prove that He doesn't, then He does and deep down inside we all know this. Why, you ask? Well because marklondon knows what everyone really believes.
Oh yes, he's quite the ass-basket alright. Right now he's trying to convince me that he's provided proof for all his assertions in this thread

I accused him of making a strawman and this is the response (I nearly busted out laughing):

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Strawman means nothing to me! I tell you how it is.
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Old 05-21-2003, 09:41 PM   #23
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Don't mention ferns though--those were desinged, you know.
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Wait...so is poison Ivy. God must want us to scratch often...

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Oh no, poison ivy was good and non-itchy before human sin corrupted it and gave it evil itchyness.
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Oh no, poison ivy was good and non-itchy before human sin corrupted it and gave it evil itchyness.
I hope so. I'd hate to of heard how the man and woman both tried to determine the best plant to cover their unmentionables.
Try this cactus? Nope, how about this ivy? etc...
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