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Old 07-06-2003, 08:30 AM   #371
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This is what you base your opinions on? Well no wonder your opinions have no support. About the only worse guide to reality then the Bible, is the crap that didn't even make the cut:

Main Entry: apoc·ry·phal
Function: adjective
Date: 1590
1 : of doubtful authenticity : SPURIOUS
2 often capitalized : of or resembling the Apocrypha
synonym see FICTITIOUS
- apoc·ry·phal·ly /-f&-lE/ adverb
- apoc·ry·phal·ness noun

Main Entry: apoc·ry·pha
Pronunciation: &-'pä-kr&-f&
Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology: Medieval Latin, from Late Latin, neuter plural of apocryphus secret, not canonical, from Greek apokryphos obscure, from apokryptein to hide away, from apo- + kryptein to hide -- more at CRYPT
Date: 14th century
1 : writings or statements of dubious authenticity
2 capitalized a : books included in the Septuagint and Vulgate but excluded from the Jewish and Protestant canons of the Old Testament -- see BIBLE table b : early Christian writings not included in the New Testament

Main Entry: spu·ri·ous
Pronunciation: 'spyur-E-&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin & Latin; Late Latin spurius false, from Latin, of illegitimate birth, from spurius, noun, bastard
Date: 1598
1 : of illegitimate birth : BASTARD
2 : outwardly similar or corresponding to something without having its genuine qualities : FALSE
3 a : of falsified or erroneously attributed origin : FORGED b : of a deceitful nature or quality
- spu·ri·ous·ly adverb
- spu·ri·ous·ness noun
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Old 07-06-2003, 09:16 AM   #372
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I suppose it would be a valid complaint if we are today as God originally designed us, which I don't believe.
So you're saying you believe in a certain form of evolution? Fascinating!

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Apocryphal writings suggest that as a result of the fall, A&E were recreated in the image of satan at least in part...
Could you please list which apocraphal writings state this? And could you also please address the fact that Satan doesn't even show up in the Bible until the New Testament? Check it out - the thing in the garden was a snake with legs. Nothing more. You don't see the word "Satan" anywhere.
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Old 07-06-2003, 09:44 AM   #373
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So you're saying you believe in a certain form of evolution? Fascinating!
That would actually be devolution. In the case of A&E, I envision an almost immediate transmogrification from a higher life form into something resembling what we are today.

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Could you please list which apocraphal writings state this?
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freeb.../adameve9.html

21 Then Adam rose up in prayer and said, "O God, you know that we transgressed against you, and from the moment we transgressed, we were stripped of our bright nature; and our body became brutish, requiring food and drink; and with animal desires.

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And could you also please address the fact that Satan doesn't even show up in the Bible until the New Testament? Check it out - the thing in the garden was a snake with legs. Nothing more. You don't see the word "Satan" anywhere.
Why is this significant in your mind?
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Old 07-06-2003, 04:16 PM   #374
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That would actually be devolution. In the case of A&E, I envision an almost immediate transmogrification from a higher life form into something resembling what we are today.
Ah, that explains your existence. Once again, I am ashamed to be human.


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21 Then Adam rose up in prayer and said, "O God, you know that we transgressed against you, and from the moment we transgressed, we were stripped of our bright nature; and our body became brutish, requiring food and drink; and with animal desires.
Good. Now all you have to do is prove that these events happened.
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Oh, wow! That thing is hilarious! Please tell me that you know it's a modern writing.
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I suppose it would be a valid complaint if we are today as God originally designed us, which I don't believe. Apocryphal writings suggest that as a result of the fall, A&E were recreated in the image of satan at least in part; IOW, what the human body was before the fall is to its present state as the homecoming queen is before she becomes a drug addict to what the addiction makes of her - although I suspect the contrast between A&E before and after the fall was much more stark.
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Oh, wow! That thing is hilarious! Please tell me that you know it's a modern writing.
How is that of any moment, since most scriptures were not written contemporaneously with the events they portray?
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How is that of any moment, since most scriptures were not written contemporaneously with the events they portray?
So, you're a Mormon then?
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So, you're a Mormon then?
His writing style reminds me more of George Bush's speeches.
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How is that of any moment, since most scriptures were not written contemporaneously with the events they portray?
Can you clarify your question? Not contemporaneous does not mean "not of any moment". They were all written at some time.
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