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07-10-2003, 05:45 AM | #21 | |
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Re: Anyone believe in Karma?
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I would like to believe in karma.
If I were to become a supernaturalist, this is where I would start. Karma, as a supernatural concept, would be a great thing. A good basis for a supernatural universe. Unfortunately, like most supernatural explanations for the universe, Karma conflicts with reality. Too bad. Jamie |
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My assertion - Classic causality is bunk. Your assertion(s) - There is a "Universal Principle of Justice." QM *must* include this principle, otherwise 50% of the "real world" is left out. The universe is an ordered place. You claim that QM is bunk for some very odd reasons. Perhaps you would like to get around to defending those reasons, instead of just asserting them. I'm *especially* interested in the "Universal Principle of Justice." Care to start there? |
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But if karma/universal justice were real, wouldn't EVERYONE who tried to hijack a minivan get the shit kicked out of him every time? Otherwise, it tends to look more like a random event. |
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Thanks for the education, and actually, that makes a lot of sense, and is something I've held to be true for a while. I always assumed the mainstream Western use of the word Karma was the supernatural one (that's what people told me it meant). Have I been misinformed, or do most of the people who talk about Karma mean it in the (incorrect) sense that I always have? Jamie |
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That being said, even among western Buddhists, I know of quite a few that take a more supernatural, many-lives view of karma. It's not strictly necessary, though. lugotorix |
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So, again, how does that Universal Principle of Justice work, and why does it disqualify QM? |
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I don't believe in anything spiritual.
Well except maybe a shot of rum every now and then! |
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