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pudgyfarmer · 04-14-2003, 08:23 PM

How can we know what is or is not morally acceptable. What is the basis for morals is there an absolute standard for what is right and wrong.

Michaelson · 04-14-2003, 08:32 PM

Um, you've already posted this question.

You say God, yeah? And everyone else said reason. And you didn't convince them, and they didn't convince you.

That's how I remember it. I wonder if anything will be different this time around...

pudgyfarmer · 04-14-2003, 09:11 PM

This is not the same person who posted before this is his brother I am just using his sign in name so I would like to have a descussion with any one who is willing

Jinto · 04-15-2003, 12:06 PM

Uh, sure you are. And I'm an abh nobleman. Go away, troll.

braces_for_impact · 04-15-2003, 01:14 PM

Well, I can say that even without an absolute basis for morality, it seems wrong to me to not use your own sign in name. Perhaps if you sign in and receive your own account you would have more luck.

Edited for syntax.

tronvillain · 04-15-2003, 04:04 PM

There is no absolute standard for what is right and wrong, but the basis of morality is a combination of emotion and reason. We have the general moral tendencies we have because of the feelings evolution has shaped us to have.

pudgyfarmer · 04-15-2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by tronvillain
There is no absolute standard for what is right and wrong, but the basis of morality is a combination of emotion and reason. We have the general moral tendencies we have because of the feelings evolution has shaped us to have.

So if my reason and emotional feelings that I have evolved with tell me that murder is right then that is a good thing. What happens when my morals differ from yours?

The AntiChris · 04-15-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by pudgyfarmer
So if my reason and emotional feelings that I have evolved with tell me that murder is right then that is a good thing. What happens when my morals differ from yours?

Look around you and work it out for yourself.

Chris

Nowhere357 · 04-15-2003, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by pudgyfarmer
So if my reason and emotional feelings that I have evolved with tell me that murder is right then that is a good thing.

Then you would be unreasonable and lack emotional empathy. Probably caused by mental illness.

pudgyfarmer · 04-15-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Nowhere357
Then you would be unreasonable and lack emotional empathy. Probably caused by mental illness.

Maybe you are unreasonable and lack emotional empathy, because you think murder is wrong! Who is to say that you are right and I am wrong? You cannot say that I lack emotional empathy because then you are applying your moral absolutes to my free thought that is a violation of my own morals.

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04-14-2003, 08:32 PM	#2
Michaelson Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Straya Posts: 290	Um, you've already posted this question. You say God, yeah? And everyone else said reason. And you didn't convince them, and they didn't convince you. That's how I remember it. I wonder if anything will be different this time around...

04-14-2003, 09:11 PM	#3
pudgyfarmer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: kettle falls W.A. Posts: 16	This is not the same person who posted before this is his brother I am just using his sign in name so I would like to have a descussion with any one who is willing

04-15-2003, 12:06 PM	#4
Jinto Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 957	Uh, sure you are. And I'm an abh nobleman. Go away, troll.

04-15-2003, 01:14 PM	#5
braces_for_impact Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In a nondescript, black helicopter. Posts: 6,637	Well, I can say that even without an absolute basis for morality, it seems wrong to me to not use your own sign in name. Perhaps if you sign in and receive your own account you would have more luck. Edited for syntax.

04-15-2003, 04:04 PM	#6
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	There is no absolute standard for what is right and wrong, but the basis of morality is a combination of emotion and reason. We have the general moral tendencies we have because of the feelings evolution has shaped us to have.

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