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Gemma Therese · 02-02-2003, 12:41 PM

Of these four arguments against the existence of God, which is most convincing to you, or which is most responsible for your atheism?

Mageth · 02-02-2003, 12:53 PM

The closest for me was the third. I simply lack belief in god(s). The other three are pretty much N/A as far as I'm concerned. But I wouldn't say that god is "objectively invalidated"; there's just no good evidence that I've seen that would lead me to believe that a god exists. So god(s) are not objectively validated.

ju'iblex · 02-02-2003, 01:26 PM

the poll is too limited, and dare i say it, baited.

Starboy · 02-02-2003, 01:38 PM

Gemma, I choose none of the above. As we all are, I was born an atheist and have always been an atheist. To me religion is irrelevant. What torques me off is the insistence by the religious that their "faith" is relevant when they have no evidence with which to back up the claim. They are part of the vast sea of people looking for purpose when everything around them screams out "there is no purpose". It is up to each of us to find a purpose to this existence and to do so without lying to ourselves. After all, what good is morality without honesty? If you must cling to your "faith" at least have the honesty to admit you have no evidence and because of that it may be no better than any of the other hundreds of thousands of religions that have cursed man's existence.

Starboy

Thieving Magpie · 02-02-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by ju'iblex
the poll is too limited, and dare i say it, baited.

I like the idea behind the poll, but I would have to agree with ju'iblex on this one.

hezekiah jones · 02-02-2003, 01:50 PM

You're the one that needs to make an "argument," not me. In the meantime, none of the above.

Gemma Therese · 02-02-2003, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by hezekiah jones
You're the one that needs to make an "argument," not me. In the meantime, none of the above.

An argument for what? I am interested in what you think.

Gemma Therese

hezekiah jones · 02-02-2003, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by Gemma Therese
An argument for what?

The "existence" of "god."

Originally posted by Gemma Therese
I am interested in what you think.

I think it's irrelevant, to be honest.

Daggah · 02-02-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemma Therese
An argument for what? I am interested in what you think.

Gemma Therese

That's a laugh. Nice try though.

I too choose none of the options.

Mad Kally · 02-02-2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese
An argument for what? I am interested in what you think.

Gemma Therese

I would like to invite you to have a formal debate with me. The topic will be "Existence of God vs Santa" I'll talk to Dr.Rick, maybe he'll set it up.

Don't deny the existence of Santa. I don't have a clue why so many people hate him and turn their backs on him. They will be sorry one day, but it will be too late.

View Poll Results: What argument the most convincing of atheism?
The problem of pain -- how can an all-knowing God allow suffering?	2	4.55%
We don't need a god -- beings are not to be postulated unless they are inescapable	9	20.45%
The meaningless of the term "God" -- which denotes an objectively invalidated entity, like "Santa" or "unicorn"	27	61.36%
The negative consequences of belief -- the illusion of God robs us of human diginity, etc.	6	13.64%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

02-02-2003, 12:41 PM	#1
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02-02-2003, 12:53 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	The closest for me was the third. I simply lack belief in god(s). The other three are pretty much N/A as far as I'm concerned. But I wouldn't say that god is "objectively invalidated"; there's just no good evidence that I've seen that would lead me to believe that a god exists. So god(s) are not objectively validated.

02-02-2003, 01:26 PM	#3
ju'iblex Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Australia and beyond the realms of Gehenna Posts: 6,035	the poll is too limited, and dare i say it, baited.

02-02-2003, 01:38 PM	#4
Starboy Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Reality Adventurer Posts: 5,276	Gemma, I choose none of the above. As we all are, I was born an atheist and have always been an atheist. To me religion is irrelevant. What torques me off is the insistence by the religious that their "faith" is relevant when they have no evidence with which to back up the claim. They are part of the vast sea of people looking for purpose when everything around them screams out "there is no purpose". It is up to each of us to find a purpose to this existence and to do so without lying to ourselves. After all, what good is morality without honesty? If you must cling to your "faith" at least have the honesty to admit you have no evidence and because of that it may be no better than any of the other hundreds of thousands of religions that have cursed man's existence. Starboy

02-02-2003, 01:50 PM	#6
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	You're the one that needs to make an "argument," not me. In the meantime, none of the above.

02-02-2003, 02:02 PM	#8
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Gemma Therese An argument for what? The "existence" of "god." Originally posted by Gemma Therese I am interested in what you think. I think it's irrelevant, to be honest.

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