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11-02-2002, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy:


It seems to me that you think that without mind, specifically the mind of god, there would be nothing. I think that makes you an idealist, whereas I am definitely a realist.

Starboy

So you think that when an idealist dies the world ends? or does the world just end for him?

Starboy · 11-02-2002, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Amos:


So you think that when an idealist dies the world ends? or does the world just end for him?

I don't know, but I suspect that for an idealist there is no such thing as death, it is all the one mind, the mind of god.

Starboy

11-02-2002, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy:


I don't know, but I suspect that for an idealist there is no such thing as death, it is all the one mind, the mind of god.

Starboy

Oh, but that is not true because our second death is real. That is why God never promised that we would not die. The difference is between knowing that we will die and presiding in eternity until we die.

Starboy · 11-02-2002, 09:10 PM

What is the first death and what is the second death?

Ronin · 11-03-2002, 01:41 AM

Thanks for the confirmation.

Any~what 'we' 'perceive' to 'be'~'time'.

Perchance · 11-03-2002, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Amos:


Good point and I never told you to search for it.

I think you misunderstood me.

I don't want to search for it.

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Variety is the spice of life and boredom is the best motivator to turn life into a merry-go-round, in which we go around and around and around and around without end.

I would blame instant gratification more than boredom, in much the same way that I would blame fear of death for religion.

-Perchance.

11-03-2002, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Perchance:


I would blame instant gratification more than boredom, in much the same way that I would blame fear of death for religion.

-Perchance.

So must you not be bored when you seek instant gratification or do you seek to gratify your gratifications?

11-03-2002, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Ronin:
Thanks for the confirmation.

Any~what 'we' 'perceive' to 'be'~'time'.

Time-as-such are those little metered segments we extraplote from eternity.

11-03-2002, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy:
What is the first death and what is the second death?

First death is the death of our humanity and the second death is when we die.

Starboy · 11-04-2002, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Amos:


First death is the death of our humanity and the second death is when we die.

What is "the death of our humanity"? Do I assume correctly that the second death is the cessation of all bodily functions?

Starboy

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Starboy Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Reality Adventurer Posts: 5,276	What is the first death and what is the second death?

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