atrahasis

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Mr.Skepticwithachainsaw you want any depiction of the tools/other technology[evidence of this advanced technology] I will give evidence.

World maps dating as far as 500 BC are in UsArmy library. These maps show grids, Asia, America and Africa. The technology used to draw these maps must have been very advanced, they protray accurate navigation skills. Who drew these maps? and yet we know the most recent world map came out in mid 1500 though drawn based on previous maps. The old maps show north pole as ice free! Were they right? Yes because if these guys could get the required skill to draw such primitive maps then they could surely know where their is ice and where their is none. Might have the ice age caused the disappearance of this remote civilation? i dont know? Mr MARDUCK make this clear pliz![if you can]

Marduk

" Might have the ice age caused the disappearance of this remote civilation? i
dont know? Mr MARDUCK make this clear pliz![if you can] "

Sure, it could have. I recently saw a show on TV about a possible civillizaion, now under water, off the coast of Cuba, but it was produced by Disney when they were plugging their "Atlantis" movie so I don't know how credible it was. Even so the things they found were standard pottery type things, nothing fantastic like a steel fender or space shuttle or anything super advanced.
It is true that sea levels rose hundreds of feet at the end of the last ice age, so many things could be underwater in different places.
Off the coast of Japan there are huge underwater stone formations that look manmade but are written off as natural formations. So far only one Geologist has bothered to take a look. I believe his name is Shotz, the same guy that dated the Sphinx a thousand or two years older than once thought, due to water erosion. However he to thinks these Japanese structures are natural formations, but he also believes they require a more thorough investigation, which has not yet happened.
As for the technology of building pyramids, I think the collapse of the Old Kingdom, that I mentioned before, explains alot about why much was not passed down to other generations.
Imagine if all the schools and factories in the USA were shut down for a hundred years, how much would be lost, people would be too busy trying to find food than to remember everything they once knew. "gee, my great grandfather knew how to drive one of these things but I don't"

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Vorkosigan

World maps dating as far as 500 BC are in UsArmy library. These maps show grids, Asia, America and Africa. The technology used to draw these maps must have been very advanced, they protray accurate navigation skills. Who drew these maps?

Nobody, since no such maps exist.

...and yet we know the most recent world map came out in mid 1500 though drawn based on previous maps.

World maps long predate this time. Are you talking about the first reasonably complete world map?

The old maps show north pole as ice free! Were they right?

Then they were wrong. As ice cores show, Greenland has not been ice free for the last 150,000 thousand years at least.

Yes because if these guys could get the required skill to draw such primitive maps then they could surely know where their is ice and where their is none.

Unfortunately, isaiah, they were wrong. Look at the evidence from the Greenland Ice cores.

Might have the ice age caused the disappearance of this remote civilation? i dont know? Mr MARDUCK make this clear pliz![if you can]

No, because there was no advanced civilization prior to the rise of modern humans after the last glaciation.

Vorkosigan

hyzer

I would like to point out to those that attribute “unimaginably high technological abilities” to ancient cultures that the simplest, most basic building shape is . . . . . the pyramid. The basic architectural design is two stones (well, really four) below each one that is raised. It just doesn’t get any more basic (just watch any two-year old with some building blocks – a two-dimensional pyramid shape invariably results from trial and error when building big is the desire).

Now, if the Egyptians had left behind point-side-down gleaming steel pyramids – well then it might be time to image they processed some technology out of their time.

Check out: <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/pyramidiocy.html" target="_blank">http://www.skepdic.com/pyramidiocy.html</a>

- hyzer (friend of Imhoptep)

Jesse

Good page on pseudoscience in archaeology (including a number of Hancock critiques):

<a href="http://www.antiquityofman.com/pseudoscience.html" target="_blank">http://www.antiquityofman.com/pseudoscience.html</a>

Thor Q. Mada

The Egyptians were pretty clever when it came to mathematics and applied mathematics, but.....they died from something as simple as an eye or tooth infection.