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Old 04-15-2002, 10:41 AM   #11
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[QB]There is far too much money to be made selling the evangelical goods for a new crop of screamers to not arise. QB]
I don't know about that. No doubt some will arise, but I think that some of the old guys have left such a bad taste in the mouth's of non-Christians and Christians alike that we won't see new people have the same impact on popular culture because the culture is changing, and, while intrested in spiritual things, it's not as interested in "spiritual" men who fall from grace.

As a Christian and ex-youthpastor, I have seen that the "new guys" don't seem to be the men themselves, but rather their ministries that are popular:

Bill Hybles, Willow Creek Community Church - 15-17,000 weekly attenders, annual seminars on "How to Grow Your Church" that bring thousands of pastors from around the nation and even world (www.willowcreek.org)

Rick Warren, Saddleback Community Church - in Orange, CA - 10-15,000 weekly attenders, plus annual seminars, also the church where Lee Stroble is employed (could'nt find web cite).
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Old 04-15-2002, 12:07 PM   #12
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I agree that new people will arise to take the place of the old ones. It just seems that the new ones do not have the charisma or the "fire in the belly" that some of the old ones have/had. With a few exceptions, I do not see the 30-60 year olds who will step forth to play the same kind of powerful leadership role. I think it is part of a broader generational and cultural shift.
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Old 04-15-2002, 03:27 PM   #13
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It's happening in the Senate too. Phil Gramm, Jessie Helms, Strom Thurmond.... they're all retiring. That whole bunch of right wing christian bigots that came into power during the Reagan Rush are gettin pretty old... and there's really nobody to replace them. (Fortunately)
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